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Adult Beginners Forum Jump to new posts
Re: Bestselling Adult Beginner Method Books Reviewed scientistplayspian 7 seconds ago
The other two got a lot of raving reviews on Amazon. Look how low ratings they got in the video. Isn't that hilarious!
IMHO, those two bad books exactly show why Faber and Alfred's are wonderful.
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Digital Pianos - Electronic Pianos - Synths & Keyboards Jump to new posts
Re: VI Labs Black Friday 35% until Dec 1 Marc345 8 minutes ago
Originally Posted by JaneF
On checkout, they deducted another 10% for a multiple-item purchase.

Ah, good point! I was about to ignore the deal because 35% isn't really much of a deal compared to other deals they made. But with the 10% I got each of them effectively for less than 100€... which was my target.
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Pianist Corner - Non Classical Jump to new posts
Re: Happy Holidays Everyone!! MarlaJackspiano 23 minutes ago
Nice Job! I’m over 45 and wanted to play this since I was a child!! Great fun!
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Piano Forum Jump to new posts
Re: Heartattack - how my iPad destroyed my Piano Rickster 37 minutes ago
Originally Posted by Steve Chandler
Very sorry you're suffering so, and it's completely understandable. I'm a little unclear exactly what and/or how this happened because the pictures are too close up to show what the iPad fell off of and where on your piano it impacted.

You can see the damage in the first pic... looks like the impact of the ipad chipped a small spot on the key-cover polyester finish pretty good. I couldn't tell much from the second pic... the repair?

Still a bummer. Kind of like getting that first scratch or ding on a new car. Of course, the feeling is not quite as bad knowing you accidently did the damage, as opposed to someone else damaging your finish, especially in the car scenario.

Just remember, anything man-made can be fixed or replaced. smile

Rick
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Piano Forum Jump to new posts
Re: New Shigeru Kawai SK5 pianoloverus 38 minutes ago
Originally Posted by maucycy
Originally Posted by pianoloverus
Originally Posted by maucycy
Great piano.

But please do something for yourself and hand on the walls some acoustic treatment. Some sound reflectors and absorbers. Unless you buy fancy things from Vicoustic and etc, stuff itself is not very expensive. Just hire company who will do measurements and who knows how piano should sound in a room or a small (chamber) concert hall. Given the cost of the piano it will not cost much (should not exceed cost of good concert stool), but sound quality improvement will be tremendous.
I don't think the OP expressed any problem with the sound or touch, so I don't think any acoustic treatment is needed.

I can't help here, unfortunately thinking is not your strong site.

This room screams for treatment.
What a nasty, mean spirited comment.

The room doesn't even have any furniture in it yet but you think the OP should get an acoustic treatment other than furniture. You may be the first person in the history of PW to suggest that kind of thing for someone who has not indicated any problem with the sound or touch of their piano. A reasonable person would wait for the room to be furnished and suggest an acoustic treatment if and only if the pianist has some problem with the sound. That has been done many times on PW.
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Piano Forum Jump to new posts
Re: Rebuild Disasters P W Grey 39 minutes ago
Originally Posted by Retsacnal
Yes, the financial considerations on the "heirloom" path are different than someone who simply wants a nice like-new piano, but who might also like it to be vintage or historical, or just older. On the heirloom path, the financial constraints are simply these: can you afford it and is it worth it to you? (I think Peter Gray has expounded on this some recently.) For someone who just wants a nice piano, then already-rebuilt pianos factor into the equation like any other piano (what do you get for your money?).


Some people mix up "heirloom" with "old". I tend to find that these folks also are under the impression (as so many are) that a good piano will last a lifetime (in their mind it is their lifetime), when in fact the pianos lifetime (lifespan) is roughly 1/3-1/2 of that.

That said, I have no problem with restoring someone's emotionally connected family piece. I advise them that it is way beyond the "economic worth" of the piano, but if the emotional satisfaction is worth it to THEM, then it's worth it (as long as money is not an issue). I have personally witnessed the positive effect of this on several occasions). I personally would consider paying a significant sum (if necessary) to get back the Bechstein B that I learned to play piano on and learned to tune (provided of course th at it was still serviceable). Long story as to why I don't have it now.

I feel that prior to any rebuilding/restoration work, the person/firm being considered should be fully investigated with examples being tried (or at least discussed with present owners). I have learned too that if the present owner of the piano is inherently familiar with the pianos "sonic signature" by virtue of having known it for many years, I will do everything I can to PRESERVE that signature (if possible) in the restore process. (I have personally witnessed the effect of ignoring this important factor...fortunately I learn quick so as not to repeat major booboos).

Edit: Since I restore furniture too, this same issue comes up from time to time. I have had owners spend (happily) significantly more than the thing is worth to bring back a piece of furniture that is connected to a beloved family member.

Current .02

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Piano Tuner-Technicians Forum Jump to new posts
Re: Una Corda pedal moves keys to the left P W Grey 1 hour ago
Yes, some pianos shift to the left.

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Piano Tuner-Technicians Forum Jump to new posts
Re: Papery decals P W Grey 1 hour ago
According to SS letter to all techs these people should be reported to SS so they can be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The SS wants to know.

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Digital Pianos - Electronic Pianos - Synths & Keyboards Jump to new posts
Re: DPs sound boring soon - true? peterws 1 hour ago
Originally Posted by Evgeny 85
As an example, take a good recording of a grand piano and play it through the DP speaker system, even external monitors, whatever, it won't sound like a digital piano. The difference will be obvious. I think it's inappropriate to compare a photograph or a e-books, the nature of sound is more complicated than visual information.

Oh, it will. There'll be differences because of the questionable quality of the amplification, but the naturalness of the sound - in the room it was played in - should be all too apparent.
Digitals may use good sampling and good modelling (usually both in processing) but they'll be lacking in realistic resonances. You can't fully reproduce the complexities of those, which will depend also on the tuning status of the piano.
But in any case DP makers iron out many of these extraneous sounds in order to create the effect they desire.
Something with mass customer appeal.
Which isn't the sound of an acoustic! Never has been, has it? except on some of the most expensive ones which will be sought after exclusively by traditional pianists for whatever reason, because they get much closer.
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Pianist Corner Jump to new posts
Re: Playing Fugues with Clavinova 'Organ' Voice? wolfpaw 2 hours ago
I liked listening to Bach's keyboard music before I started to play any of it on the piano. I enjoyed it a lot but much preferred Mozart's concertos and Beethoven's sonatas. But playing it is a totally different experience.

Each of the fugues I've learned remind me of miniature tone poems, or Mahler symphonies. They are so incredibly rich and beautiful, and the harmonies are often so startling or extreme or just lovely for the sake of it. I found I've missed most of what was in them just by listening to them. Each fugue has multiple moments when you're learning it when you think 'oh that's unbelievable' or 'that's outrageous'. [I probably should have tried to be a better listener.] The A major fugue from Bk 1 which I've been playing on and off for a while is remarkably beautiful, and yet it's usually played with such velocity that I think many of its numerous musical beauties seem to get lost. Bach played as a finger exercise is one my big annoyances.

When playing counterpoint I find it hard/impossible to have an awareness of all the voices and what they're doing at any given time. Is that something that comes with practice and experience? I tend to focus on one 'line' and leave the other things to do their own thing. I'm guessing that's not right, but it's hard to remove oneself enough to see the bigger picture.

Originally Posted by prout
Sidokar makes very good points. I was at a concert/lecture two weeks ago where the pianist performed the WTC Book I in full on the piano. In his lecture/masterclass the next day he made similar points.

It is important to understand the difference between counterpoint and the reaction to the intellectual attention required to appreciate it, which ultimately led to a shift in composition to much the simpler structures of accompanied melody.

The neat thing (I would say wonderful and magical) is the ability of our brains to absorb all the sound of Bach's counterpoint and pick out, as desired, any line for consideration. Our brain, in effect, makes that line louder. We all do this in a crowed room (remember those?). It is possible, as an observer, to pick individual conversations amongst the overall cacophony. In Bach's music all the lines are equally important and interesting.
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Members Recordings - Pianist Corner Jump to new posts
Christmas is coming! Oniap 2 hours ago
Here's my contribution to the holiday season. Enjoy!

- Jeff

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Piano Forum Jump to new posts
Re: Sustenuto Pedal problem - an update Steve Chandler 2 hours ago
Interesting video and I enjoyed seeing how the sostenuto works. I wish there had been some discussion of using the sostenuto with the sustain pedal. Looking at the video it would seem that using both at the same time would cause the tabs to push against the sostenuto bar and I could see how that might be a problem, either breaking the tabs or deforming them. Am I to conclude that the two should not be used together?
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Digital Pianos - Electronic Pianos - Synths & Keyboards Jump to new posts
Re: Is there a really portable DP with decent key action? Ajax69 2 hours ago
Yeah, the CTS1 is tempting due to size and price. But considering action I'm more leaning towards something a little more high end. Thought I'd found what I was needing in the Dexibell Vivo S3 Pro, until I read this thread at PW: http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthre...on-dexibell-vivo-s3-pro.html#Post3087870

... where the action of the S3 Pro is deemed being brutally hard. Which is not my cup of tea at all.

So I'll keep on looking. Any more suggestions are more than welcome! wink
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Pianist Corner Jump to new posts
Re: Need piano quintet scores and parts Sidokar 2 hours ago
Originally Posted by Mark_C
Sure, but if you want the old-fashioned real stuff....

I can imagine wanting that.

Mike: Hope we'll have someone who has them for you. I know that such full scores/parts aren't cheap.


Yes I can understand that too. But its not the kind of score that is easy to find. The Franck piece is expensive new, 45 euros from Henle.
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Adult Beginners Forum Jump to new posts
Re: PCA - what can I expect? Hammertime 3 hours ago
For the premium price of PCA I would expect not only high quality teaching but also a high quality experience regarding filming and editing. Sadly the latter lets PCA down. Many of the videos are old, poorly filmed and the choppy editing really makes watching Ilinca hard work. This is just my opinion and YMMV.
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Piano Forum Jump to new posts
Re: Happy story of the day Rickster 4 hours ago
Yes, a nice story indeed, with a happy ending, despite the thief's criminal intentions.

Unfortunately, this type of thing seems to be happening more and more these days.

Glad this particular scenario had a happy ending.

Rick
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Adult Beginners Forum Jump to new posts
Re: Chord Jumps and Preparation Qazsedcft 4 hours ago
Ah yes, that makes sense! I'll go slowly and play that E distinctly. smile
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Digital Pianos - Electronic Pianos - Synths & Keyboards Jump to new posts
Cleaning device for digital pianos survey (updated) ILoveCoffee 4 hours ago
Hi guys,

I am collecting data in regard to cleaning digital pianos/midi controllers. I will be designing a cleaning device for these instruments as part of my Final Year Design course. This new device will get rid of the dust that collects on the keyboard and in the electronics in the aim to prevent potential damage to the instrument.

I just would like to ask and it would be great if you could participate by filling out the survey I’ve created to aid in my research. All participants will be anonymous. If you own a digital piano/ midi controller, I am grateful if you could spend some of your time to help in my studies. Thanks!

the link is below. thanks

https://forms.office.com/Pages/Resp...fz9UNjQwMlhLOEZERFhFTlg5SlBWTlAwQ1hPWi4u
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Digital Pianos - Electronic Pianos - Synths & Keyboards Jump to new posts
Re: Cleaning digital pianos and midi controllers NXR 4 hours ago
I found the cost question interesting. I answered it "Good question. As I've aged I value convenience over cost. A whole room air cleaner that would handle the room where the piano is costs about $100 US and eliminates the dust etc. on everything."

Which posed the question of whether a whole room air filter for a home user would be "good enough" for most individuals and provide other benefits. If so, that is the cost you're competing with.

A specialized tool as you're proposing necessarily has a limited audience. Your target market might actually be music stores with many devices on display, each one needing individually cleaned. .

What do other people think the target customer is for such a device?
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Pianist Corner Jump to new posts
Re: RIP Stephen Sondheim pianoloverus 4 hours ago
Originally Posted by Carey
Originally Posted by Mark_C
Originally Posted by Carey
....Sondheim was a true musical theater giant. RIP
He was. But not all his music was as 'catchy' or readily 'enjoyable' as Bernstein's. We might also say not as "accessible."
Much of Sondheim's music, to me, is more like "Wow, that's so interesting and so creative and so wow" -- than "It's a thing I want to hear a lot." I mean, I do want to hear it, but not necessarily a lot lot. And I suspect that for most people, it's more so.
No slam on Sondheim. After all I might say the same of, for example, late Beethoven as compared to a lot else.
Agree !!! smile
I don't agree, and I've played many of his songs.

Although some of his songs fit the above description, I think many are instantly appealing, highly accessible, and fit the description that one wants to hear them a lot. They do tend to be more sophisticated both in terms of the words and music than many other composers from the last 50 years.
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Adult Beginners Forum Jump to new posts
Re: Jazz vs classical thepianoplayer416 4 hours ago
Advanced players don’t always read Jazz & Pop sheet music note for note. Some sheets are notated with the bass line & chords on top as lead sheets. There is room for improvisation.

In the Baroque music of the 17th & 18th century movements from dance suites were written with top & bottom parts and repeat on both. Students would play a repeat as exact copy of a section. Advanced players would add ornaments to embellish the repeat not to sound exactly the same.
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Digital Pianos - Electronic Pianos - Synths & Keyboards Jump to new posts
Re: DPs & Hybrids - Innovation Required Marc345 4 hours ago
Originally Posted by anotherpianoplayer
I think you'd be right if we were talking about entry level DPs, but once you're talking about DPs which are 1500 to 3000 dollars, reputations depend on finer issues than does it fit into my son's bedroom.

Is that a fact or do you just make an assumption? I don't see any benefit of the N3X besides fitting nicely into a living room for decorative purposes. At least not any benefit that would fit the additional price tag of 10k€ over the N1X. Also, the above video confirms my position: she finds out about the (minor) downsides after a year, not before. heck, she even complains about the light touch..... one should think before buying a 17k€ instrument, she'd at least be aware of how the keys feel. But no.
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Piano Forum Jump to new posts
Re: Bechstein imposant vs Classic/Elegance j&j 5 hours ago
Congratulations on your new C. Bechstein! How delightful! Please do post pictures when it’s delivered. You might want to video the delivery. New piano delivery doesn’t happen everyday!🎊🍾🎉
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Digital Pianos - Electronic Pianos - Synths & Keyboards Jump to new posts
Cleaning device for digital pianos/ midi controllers ILoveCoffee 6 hours ago
Hi everyone,

I am collecting data in regard to cleaning digital pianos/midi controllers. I will be designing a specialised cleaning device for these instruments as part of my Final Year Design course. This device will ensure that the keyboard, and the electronics are as dust free as possible to prevent potential damage to the instrument and when dust enters its way in between the keys which clogs up the sensors and other sensitive parts which are hard to clean.

I just would like to ask and it would be great if you could participate by filling out the survey I’ve created to aid in my research. All participants will be anonymous. If you are in the age range of 18-60 and own a digital piano/ midi controller, I am grateful if you could spend some of your time to help in my studies. Thanks!

https://forms.office.com/Pages/Resp...fz9UNjQwMlhLOEZERFhFTlg5SlBWTlAwQ1hPWi4u
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Piano Teachers Forum Jump to new posts
Re: Ethical or unethical teacher? malkin 6 hours ago
I recommend that you require a fee from anyone wishing you to hold a time slot open for them.

Your feelings about how wonderful the kids are and how much you love teaching them are mostly irrelevant if you are teaching piano as a source of income.

As to the teacher trying to "steal" your students: at the moment they seem to be her students.
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