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Here's a video demonstration of how to upload pictures to PW, and then use them in your posts.




Rationale (and why there's no sound):

A few days back I posted some pictures, and I recorded it because I also was also about to attend a training seminar about preparing content for people with accessibility needs (I've had a blind student in the past; this session was for the hearing impaired). We each had to prepare something visual, and this was mine. Part of the process was learning by getting critical feedback (and also from the participants' submissions too).

So, I tried to demonstrate each step conspicuously, w/o explaining it verbally.

Anyway, I thought about posting it then, and decided not to, but I keep seeing comments from people who struggle with posting pic's, so--for better or worse--I decided to go ahead and share it here.


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Very helpful, Retsacnal!!!

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Thank you. I had the gallery figured out. Got one picture in a thread then no success subsequent to that attempt. I'm going to try again now. Thanks for your efforts!


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Retsacnal - Helpful, Thanx.

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Keep in mind that if you post a lot of pictures, you will eventually run out of space and have to either delete some pictures, or start a different gallery. I wasn’t aware of this until I ran out of space, LOL. 😂😂😂

Nice job on the video, I’m sure it’s going to help a whole lot of people! 😊👍


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I upload to imgur (have to do on computer and not phone) and after they're all uploaded for each one it says "copy link". But I can't just use the link in the img tags, have to add a .jpg suffix.

I think the first time I tried to post photos here I tried the official method and it was too much of a pain! I had everything hosted on Flickr at the time so just posted the pics from there.


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Originally Posted by twocats
I upload to imgur (have to do on computer and not phone) and after they're all uploaded for each one it says "copy link". But I can't just use the link in the img tags, have to add a .jpg suffix.

I think the first time I tried to post photos here I tried the official method and it was too much of a pain! I had everything hosted on Flickr at the time so just posted the pics from there.

Same here. Like Ret said, I've had difficulty with the official PW photo hosting page. Sometimes it seems to work and sometimes not.

Great training video, Retsacnal! You're a good tech teacher! smile

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I upload to imgur (have to do on computer and not phone) and after they're all uploaded for each one it says "copy link". But I can't just use the link in the img tags, have to add a .jpg suffix.

I think the first time I tried to post photos here I tried the official method and it was too much of a pain! I had everything hosted on Flickr at the time so just posted the pics from there.

Same here. Like Ret said, I've had difficulty with the official PW photo hosting page. Sometimes it seems to work and sometimes not.

Great training video, Retsacnal! You're a good tech teacher! smile

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It’s VERY nit picky, LOL.


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Thanks for the positive feedback, everyone! I was a little reluctant to post it. blush


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Couple more tips, based on comments...

It does seem nit-picky, but helps to know the rules! wink

You need to provide the full URL (link) to the image file itself (not the page it's on).
  • The link will start with "http://" (or https://).
  • The link should end with the image's file extension (e.g. .png or .jpg or .gif, etc (not "html" or other junk)).

Put the link between the image tags as shown below (or paste it into the image button's prompt).

Examples (1st correct, others incorrect):

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Example 1 (correct):

[img]http://forums.pianoworld.com//gallery/42/medium/14826.png[/img]

Example 2 (missing "http://"):

[img]forums.pianoworld.com//gallery/42/medium/14826.png[/img]

Example 3 (missing file extension: .png):

[img]http://forums.pianoworld.com//gallery/42/medium/14826[/img]

Example 4 (extra cruft after file link: ?size=50%):

[img]http://forums.pianoworld.com//gallery/42/medium/14826.png?size=50%[/img]

Example 5 (link to the page the file is on, rather than the actual file):

[img]http://forums.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/3105467/guitar-center-photos.html#lg=3105467&slide=0[/img]


Examples rendered:

Example 1 (correct):
[Linked Image]

Example 2 (missing "http://"):
[Linked Image]

Example 3 (missing file extension: .png):
[img]http://forums.pianoworld.com//gallery/42/medium/14826[/img]

Example 4 (extra cruft after file link: ?size=50%):
[img]http://forums.pianoworld.com//gallery/42/medium/14826.png?size=50%[/img]

Example 5 (link to the page the file is on, rather than the actual file):
[img]http://forums.pianoworld.com/ubbthr...enter-photos.html#lg=3105467&slide=0[/img]


Couple more things:

I think one reason people get frustrated is because you can do all of the above correctly, and the site that's hosting the picture still may not serve it up when requested. They want you viewing content on their site, not to use their resources to serve it up elsewhere (e.g. here). A lot of the heavy duty image services prevent it. I don't know which off the top of my head, but, for example, I'm pretty sure that Pinterest will not serve up an image this way. Anyway, just one more reason to upload it here if you want it to display here. But, of course, you can link to pictures hosted elsewhere if that service will respond to the file request. Anyway, probably TMI, but that's one reason why I think people get frustrated. Also, many services embellish the link with all sorts of cruft, specifically to obfuscate it and make it difficult to use elsewhere.


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Excellent, Retsacnal - thank you!

Frank always used to make the point that if you link pics from elsewhere, in a few years those pictures may disappear, or the links cease to work. It is certainly noticeable that if one looks at an old thread, the pictures have often disappeared. Frank wanted the pictures to remain in threads to make PW a more useful archive. For this reason I have always used the PW hosting facility in preference to hosting pictures elsewhere.

Having said that, I am slightly alarmed to read Ebonyk's warning about a limit on space. That would seem to defeat the objective of keeping the illustrations in old threads.

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Originally Posted by twocats
I upload to imgur (have to do on computer and not phone) and after they're all uploaded for each one it says "copy link". But I can't just use the link in the img tags, have to add a .jpg suffix.

I think the first time I tried to post photos here I tried the official method and it was too much of a pain! I had everything hosted on Flickr at the time so just posted the pics from there.

Unfortunately some of us do most of our PW reading on work owned devices that disallow access to Flickr and similar services, so the images are more accessible if hosted in galleries here. I imagine they persist longer as well although they presumably add to Frank's hosting costs due to the storage requirement.

Sorry for the duplicated comment on persistence. I should have read through to the end of the thread before replying I guess.

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What I've also not been able to figure out is how to cite a section of a post that I want to reply to. You know, the snippet of a previous post that's pertinent to your own comment and that appears as a brown box with text inside. How do you do that?


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What I've also not been able to figure out is how to cite a section of a post that I want to reply to. You know, the snippet of a previous post that's pertinent to your own comment and that appears as a brown box with text inside. How do you do that?

This eluded me too, for a while, until another member, the late Monica Kern, told me how to do it. If you want to quote the entire post of another poster, at the bottom right of their post, click on the box that says "Quote" and a post page will appear with the brown quote box already there.

If you only want to post a "snippet" or part of a quote from another member, copy the content of the quote you want to use. Next, at the bottom of the page, click on "Use Full Editor". Next, click on the quote marks icon ("), 3rd icon at the top of page, R to L. This is what you will see in the post page "{quote][/quote]"; *Note* I changed the first bracket so a brown box would not appear here. Align your cursor in the center of the quote boxes and paste the copy of the quote you wish to discuss.

An alternative to a partial quote would be to use the full Quote feature, and delete the text in the quote you want to leave out.

If you want to add the name of the original poster in the quote, add an = and the persons name at the end of the first quote box, inside the box, like this {quote=Rickster][/quote] (again, I changed the first bracket so a brown box would not appear.

Also, you will not see the brown quote boxes in your post unless you click on "Preview Reply" at the bottom of the post age; or, just click "Post Reply".

Hope this helps!

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Originally Posted by Rickster
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An alternative to a partial quote would be to use the full Quote feature, and delete the text in the quote you want to leave out.

[...]

That's the method I use; it's quick and easy to do. That method works, too, if you want to quote different sections of a post and not the quote(s) in between. Quote the entire post and just delete those sections that aren't pertinent to your reply.

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Originally Posted by Rickster
An alternative to a partial quote would be to use the full Quote feature, and delete the text in the quote you want to leave out.

This is what I do (and just did). I do a lot of text removing when I quote posts 😂


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Originally Posted by Rickster
An alternative to a partial quote would be to use the full Quote feature, and delete the text in the quote you want to leave out.

This is what I do. (And what I am doing here!) Very straightforward.

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An alternative to a partial quote would be to use the full Quote feature, and delete the text in the quote you want to leave out.

[...]

That's the method I use; it's quick and easy to do. That method works, too, if you want to quote different sections of a post and not the quote(s) in between. Quote the entire post and just delete those sections that aren't pertinent to your reply.

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An alternative to a partial quote would be to use the full Quote feature, and delete the text in the quote you want to leave out.

This is what I do (and just did). I do a lot of text removing when I quote posts 😂
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Originally Posted by Rickster
An alternative to a partial quote would be to use the full Quote feature, and delete the text in the quote you want to leave out.

This is what I do. (And what I am doing here!) Very straightforward.

Dang, I sure am getting quoted a lot here in this thread! :-)

Guess I finally said something that made sense? smile

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Originally Posted by David-G
Frank always used to make the point that if you link pics from elsewhere, in a few years those pictures may disappear, or the links cease to work. It is certainly noticeable that if one looks at an old thread, the pictures have often disappeared. Frank wanted the pictures to remain in threads to make PW a more useful archive. For this reason I have always used the PW hosting facility in preference to hosting pictures elsewhere.

Yes, that even happened to some of my older posts, so I started using the picture facility here. (well, if I'm linking in something silly, like a popcorn munching emoji, or a funny picture, I'll link directly, but for anything I'd like to persist, I upload it here).

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Having said that, I am slightly alarmed to read Ebonyk's warning about a limit on space. That would seem to defeat the objective of keeping the illustrations in old threads.

I could be wrong, but I think the limit is just the number of files, which is 100, so fairly high. But I think there's also a per file size limit (2 mb?).


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Originally Posted by twocats
Originally Posted by Rickster
An alternative to a partial quote would be to use the full Quote feature, and delete the text in the quote you want to leave out.

This is what I do (and just did). I do a lot of text removing when I quote posts 😂

Me too! And if there are multiple "chunks" in a post that I want to comment on, I'll carve out the undesired parts, then make duplicate copies of the remaining quote, and carve the redundant bits out of each.

Sometimes I feel more like I'm coding than typing! crazy
But BBCode is pretty simple.


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