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Ticklethedawn #1550723 11/04/10 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by itsfreakingmeout
And I don't care about debt...you pretty much spend your whole life in debt (car, mortgage, credit cards, piano) so whatevs. And who said I would finance it? maybe i'll save the money and buy it outright. The future is fun.


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Regarding my Estonia, I bought it because it was one of only 3 pianos that brought a giant smile to my face when I first sat down to play it! The other ones were 3 and 9 times the price (Bechstein A228 and Steinway D, prepped to perfection at the Berlin Bechstein Center and Steinway Hall, respectively), so not really an alternative


You can get your cake and eat it without having to spend 3-9 times more...

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Regarding my Estonia, I bought it because it was one of only 3 pianos that brought a giant smile to my face when I first sat down to play it! The other ones were 3 and 9 times the price (Bechstein A228 and Steinway D, prepped to perfection at the Berlin Bechstein Center and Steinway Hall, respectively), so not really an alternative


You can get your cake and eat it without having to spend 3-9 times more...

http://www.pianoworld.com:80/Uploads/files/IMG_2302(1).jpg

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actually, the dealer had an older (but still new-era, 2003-4 I believe?) Estonia concert grand too and it didn't captivate me at all. I have my eyes on the new 225 model though, any news on that? wink


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Nice pic! Is that your store, Norbert?

Another Estonia 190 owner and fan here, itsfreakingmeout. When I bought mine other brands couldn't touch it at twice the price. 'Course Estonias have risen in price a little since then.


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While I love my Estonia, I remain very impressed with Grotrian. Of course, a Steinway B or D would be nice if your budget permits. But in the end, choosing a piano is entirely subjective. Play as many brands and models as you can, even if they're out of your price range. That's what I did, as well as many other posters on this forum. When you're done, you'll likely find a piano at an affordable price point that speaks to you. Good luck.

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Norbert, how does current Estonia compared to the older Estonia from the early 1980s if you have encountered one before? I read a lot about how bad Estonia was in the past but that was not my recollection. While I was attending Edinburgh University in the UK in 1982, I had a chance to practise for a couple of weeks on a new Estonia grand that a music professor had purchased for one of the student residences. I don't know its exact size but it was a medium grand (under 6 fT). It was so long ago now that I dont't really remember how it sounded exactly but it was certainly a lovely piano, got an European sound, quite different from the Yamaha from those days. The piano was placed in a very nice drawing room with humidity control which made my evening practice sessions in those few weeks very enjoyable and memorable. I kind of remember it was closer in tone to a Bosendorfer than a Hamburg Steinway.


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Gryphon, yes it's our Estonia showroom.

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Norbert, how does current Estonia compared to the older Estonia from the early 1980s if you have encountered one before?


In two words: NO COMPARISON!!!!!

This grand could be put besides the best there is with total confidence. We had several pianists in during the weekend who all came to try the grand - they were virtually mesmerized.

It's powerful, it's sweet, it's precise.

One concert level pianist said: "this piano plays itself".

[of course we fooled him because we worked 2 days on the beast... ;)]

Others seemed to prefer it over some of the biggest names out.
I'm not hyping things and I'm not saying saying everybody always will come to exact same conclusion.

But this piano proves Estonia has arrived - a truly incredible piano even the most discrimination pianists would most likely be amazed with.

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Norbert,

Good to hear about the Estonia. I've heard good things about the newer ones elsewhere How do they compare in price to Steinway and others? About 30% less?

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Bech:

Estonia pianos have always been known for their singing tone, but the new pianos have a built quality and precicion rivalling the best German pianos.

Admittedly their still very reasonable price has contributed to their success on the market, they're running roughly half of a Steinway and other pianos in same tier.

As such Estonia has created an almost "impossible" position for itself in terms of quality and price where one would have to virtually hate the piano *not* to at leats somewhat take it into consideration.

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Originally Posted by Norbert

Estonia pianos have always been known for their singing tone, but the new pianos have a built quality and precicion rivalling the best German pianos.


The Estonia pianos have design aspects that appeal to players more than many of the more expensive German pianos. The build quality is excellent. Precision of the workmanship is very good, but it is a stretch to say that they rival the best pianos from Germany. They are not there yet.
However, with excellent prep and some insightful custom work, they can exceed several much more expensive pianos in terms of performance.


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However, with excellent prep and some insightful custom work, they can exceed several much more expensive pianos in terms of performance.


Would you mind to tell some of the insightful custom works that would make an Estonia exceed expensive pianos?

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I am waiting for someone to contact me about test driving the new 7'4".


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If I was where you are, I'd come for a test drive, apple! wink


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I am waiting for someone to contact me about test driving the new 7'4".


are they available yet?

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I don't think so but I readily volunteer to assess how it does in the home situation... no charge.


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apple,

I believe the new Estonia 7'+ grand will be officially launched at the next NAMM (January 2011 I guess this is).

Dealers can already pre-order them (quantities will be limited at the beginning) and some have already seen/played/heard prototypes/functional pianos.

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I wonder what the cost will be and how much my 2008 L190 will reduce that cost?

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