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I was thinking we spend a lot of time talking about the importance of a good piano on these forums – but we don’t spend much time talking about the room we put it in.

In my experience, the room actually really matters!

What if we were to dream … the goal for this thread is to build the perfect piano room. What would it look like? Ceiling height, room size, flooring material, wall coverings ….

Anyone care to dream?


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I've been dreaming of a perfect piano room for ages. Mine would look something like this: built in bookcases, full of books, on all sides. (Actually, one side of the shelves will be specially designed to hold sheet music.) Two or three narrow windows on one end (the end opposite of the piano). Its own HVAC zone, with a state of the art humidifier set at 42% RH year round, so that climate will be perfectly controlled even if my nature-loving hubby has doors and windows to the rest of the house wide open. Soundproofing in walls and doors so that if I'm playing with the doors closed, my family won't be disturbed. Large closet containing folding chairs (the expensive comfy kind with padded seats and backs) that can be easily brought out and set up for an appreciative audience. TALL ceilings. Oriental rugs under the piano, marble or granite tile elsewhere.

Oh, leather couch and loveseat for reading enjoyment if I'm not playing.

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What if we were to dream … the goal for this thread is to build the perfect piano room. What would it look like? Ceiling height, room size, flooring material, wall coverings ….

Anyone care to dream?
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Seriously, if I could have the ultimate piano room it would be shaped a bit like a megaphone. The stage (the piano would be up a few steps) would be the smaller end. From there, the walls would flare outwards and the and ceiling would slope upwards so as to avoid parallel surfaces. I suppose I'd also have a raked (sloping) floor, so each audience member would be able to have a clear view of the stage.

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Musikverein Goldener Saal, Vienna, right?

Or is that Whippen Hall in SF? Your bungalow in Pacific Heights?


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Oh yes... that's just my little music shack behind the tennis court and stables. laugh laugh

(You are right - it is the Musikverein...)

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I've been a stereophile for a lot of years and always have treated my music rooms with acoustic wall treatments. Sound bouncing off parallell walls, ceilings and floors back to the listener, degrades the primary notes. This can be manifested as a perceived lack of attack, reverberant echos or in harsh sounding trebles. If you are in search of the absolute sound from your piano, I would consult a high end stereo or home theatre store and ask them to recommend a local acoustician. The wall treatments can be fairly inexpensive and unobtrusive. Using them effectively, you can make any piano room "perfect".


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I've been told that the room proportions should not be even (i.e. avoid 1:2 or 1:3 relationships in the dimensions) in order to avoid undesirable resonance. True?


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No, don't do it. You can't. !!

OK, the devil got the best of me and I have to boast.

I have been fortunate enough to play the Hamburg Steinway D, onstage, at the Musikverein. It was as pictured above. That hall has the most exceptional accoustics. The instrument envelopes you with its sound and the clarity is amazing. It is the same in the hall with an audience. The perfect match of volume and clarity.

I've wet my pants again just thinking of the experience.


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I would LOVE to get to play that organ!!


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My aspirations are modest - a piano room that is sufficiently warm year-round to allow me to play without wearing gloves.


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NOw the real question that has probably been answered already on another thread.
Hardwood floors? with area rugs in strategic places? Or tile/Marble floors with the same area rugs? Or all carpet?
Tall ceilings? Tray table ceilings, vaulted or flat?
Acoustical panels in strategic locations, but what of the underlying material?
Spartan furniture, or overstuffed couches and chairs?


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I have been fortunate enough to play the Hamburg Steinway D, onstage, at the Musikverein. It was as pictured above.
In all fairness, what is pictured above is a Bösendorfer 280. wink

I wonder how a Steinway got in there?! eek laugh

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No, don't do it. You can't. !!

OK, the devil got the best of me and I have to boast.

I have been fortunate enough to play the Hamburg Steinway D, onstage, at the Musikverein. It was as pictured above. That hall has the most exceptional accoustics. The instrument envelopes you with its sound and the clarity is amazing. It is the same in the hall with an audience. The perfect match of volume and clarity.

I've wet my pants again just thinking of the experience.
I actually performed there, in front of an audience, but not on the piano, and definitely not solo... I was part of the choir, with an orchestra playing as well (and a ... NARRATOR - long story). Unfortunately the music we were performing was not very good, but it was still worth it to be there!

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Last time I was there it was Oct. 1987.

Bose Imperial on stage then.
Impressive to say the least..

Didn't wet my pants, used the restroom. laugh

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I live in the country on a farm. My perfect piano room would involve moving an old country church to our yard and renovating that. Stained glass ... 20 foot tall cathedral ceilings ... lots of space for the music to grow ...


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My perfect Piano Room would have in it a Steinway on one side of the room, a Grotrian on the other, and a few other pianos, including the "Butterfly Piano" (what my husband and I called it) that I played at Cathy Harl's shop.

The "Butterfly Piano" was a tiny baby grand piano - it looked like a toy, and had what reminded us of "butterfly wings" - the top of the case was divided and came up in sections. It didn't sound like an artist's piano by any means, but it had a certain charm to it. smile

There'd be a Bohemia grand in there, too.

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My perfect piano "studio" would have fabulous natural light and custom-made music storage cabinets. Twin Petrof grands would be on a raised platform in the center of the room (with enough room on the platform to also seat a chamber ensemble). The platform would be surrounded by very comfortable seating for intimate musical gatherings. The room would be equipped with state of the art recording and video equipment. The room would also contain a bar for post-performance celebrating!

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Whippen Boy - That may indeed be a Bose in the picture, but, what I played was a Hamburg S&S D. I didn't question what was sitting on the stage when I received the invitation to play. This was not for a concert, it was just for the thrill of playing on the Musikverein stage. When I was in Vienna, I became beer drinking buddies with one of the stage managers and that is how I was able to obtain a private tour of the facility.


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Music is said to be the universal language - but beer can be just as useful. laugh

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