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Originally Posted by terminaldegree
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Not looking good for the new. Models imo, underpowered speakers, too light an action...


Maybe play them for yourself before pronouncing them "not looking good".

Well, my neighbors definitely think it's loud enough and the speakers are not underpowered... thumb

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Lighter than GFII, but comparable to GF.

This is very strange considering GFIII is almost identical to GFII, why would it be lighter? They changed weighting out of a blue? I don't get it.

Kawai James? Could you please provide some facts? Not that I care much, because I like the action just the way it is, but facts are always better than speculation...

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Originally Posted by Roy18
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CA78 on the left and CA79 to the right, speakers have the same specifications so not sure why sound quality could be any worse


I think nobody mentioned lower quality, just under powered speakers. In that respect efficiency of speakers can be a factor. Also, maybe the diffuser affects perception of loudness.. Don't really know but I won't give much credit until tried in person. And take into account that some stores are pretty loud and what seems under powered there is overkill at home.

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Originally Posted by Galuwen
Also interesting instrument.... and first pictures of the EP finish:

https://store.shimamura.co.jp/ec/pr...2181219.1583074755-1112884241.1583074755

Galuwen


That’s the CA9900, a Japan-only version produced for a musical instrument chain store. This is actually the Moden Black, which is slightly different to the Satin Black finish sold overseas.

The Ebony Polish finish is completely different. I posted some pictures of this finish in the other thread previously.

http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2949749/#Post2949749

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In the same page they also offer the 99EP, and it has a different picture from those James posted:

https://store.shimamura.co.jp/ec/pro/disp/1/mt0094655?sFlg=2

(Can't wait for it, it looks amazing)

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Originally Posted by cebeema
In the same page they also offer the 99EP, and it has a different picture from those James posted:

https://store.shimamura.co.jp/ec/pro/disp/1/mt0094655?sFlg=2


Ah, that’s a Photoshopped version, combining the CA99 with elements of the CS11.

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Maybe one of lucky owners could do the usual down weight / up weight trick with the coins at the end of the key and once the key starts moving...weight the coins on an accurate scale? If down weight is in the 47 to 52 grams (highs to lows) then it matches the average grands.
This is probably more objective than ‘feeling light or heavy’

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Originally Posted by grd-dan
Maybe one of lucky owners could do the usual down weight / up weight trick with the coins at the end of the key and once the key starts moving...weight the coins on an accurate scale? If down weight is in the 47 to 52 grams (highs to lows) then it matches the average grands.
This is probably more objective than ‘feeling light or heavy’

YES that would be awesome.

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Nice pictures James!!! Cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!!!!

Thx a lot!

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@James: thanks for your reply. I didn’t encounter any problems with the recorder, because I haven’t tried the recorder in the music store. But the owners-manual is a bit shortcoming regarding the recorder. Eg: Is it still possible to record two parts?

@grd-dan: Great Idea, such a weight test could reduce some speculation about the action. Otherwise, the action and the "feeling" is definitely a personal and subjective opinion, nothing more and nothing less. I’m sure these kind of “facts by number” will deliver some insight. But everyone should keep in mind, that none of these facts will provide the kind of information which you will gather if you go and play the instrument by yourself.

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Hello TomBom,

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@James: thanks for your reply. I didn’t encounter any problems with the recorder, because I haven’t tried the recorder in the music store. But the owners-manual is a bit shortcoming regarding the recorder. Eg: Is it still possible to record two parts?


Yes, this behaviour has not changed.

However the CA99/CA79 refers to recording the second part as "overdubbing".

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Originally Posted by Kawai James

However the CA99/CA79 refers to recording the second part as "overdubbing".


Ah thank you James for clearing this up. Is it possible to save a recording in midi format or to transfer the internal recordings in midi format onto usb?

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Is it possible to save a recording in midi format or to transfer the internal recordings in midi format onto usb?


I gather that saving internal recorder songs as SMF files to USB will be implemented with future software update.

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Originally Posted by Kawai James


I gather that saving internal recorder songs as SMF files to USB will be implemented with future software update.

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Any chance of that coming to the previous gen touchscreen pianos? I sometimes don't have a USB drive free when playing, and have a few recordings it would be nice to liberate...


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Originally Posted by TomBom

@grd-dan: Great Idea, such a weight test could reduce some speculation about the action. Otherwise, the action and the "feeling" is definitely a personal and subjective opinion, nothing more and nothing less. I’m sure these kind of “facts by number” will deliver some insight. But everyone should keep in mind, that none of these facts will provide the kind of information which you will gather if you go and play the instrument by yourself.


Test would be definite but James answered in another topic:
"However, I know that the action is faster and more responsive than previous GF actions, so it's possible that some players may confuse this change as simply being "lighter"."
So I guess I was right and this action is just more responsive while keeping the same weight it has, so for me that is perfect news.

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My CA79 is arriving next week. Is there a setting for if your piano is against a wall?

I also have to say, compared to it's rivals, it's quite something! No idea what Yamaha are thinking with the action in the CLP675/685.

Just out of interest, what was it about the CA79/99 that made you want to own one?

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Originally Posted by Amy H
My CA79 is arriving next week. Is there a setting for if your piano is against a wall?



That is only for the CA99 (for the speakerboard). And congrats! Mine is already arriving saturday, nananana. wink

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How much should I pay for the CA99? I live in the US.

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Originally Posted by Amy H
Just out of interest, what was it about the CA79/99 that made you want to own one?

I bought the Kawai CA79 because it's the DP in that price range I liked best. But the advice I got from people I trust was that you can't do much wrong with the "usual suspects" in that price range...

Note: I do not want to start a discussion about that statement. It's just an opinion... smile

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Originally Posted by sleutelbos
Originally Posted by Amy H
My CA79 is arriving next week. Is there a setting for if your piano is against a wall?



That is only for the CA99 (for the speakerboard). And congrats! Mine is already arriving saturday, nananana. wink


How are you finding it so far? Tomorrow is delivery day for me!

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