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Indeed. Although if I didn't know it was Pianoteq, and for this passage alone, I would have thought it's a fortepiano or some period instrument because some of them have that hollow sound too.
It's true, at first I found Pianoteq's Grotrian to be a bit hollow and without body, but in fact it is very faithful to the original instrument. It also depends on the sound recording.
Version 7 is even better. Modartt has done an incredible job.
I don't understand it either, but in a way it allows Modartt to improve his pianos more and more to achieve perfection. It should also be remembered that many people found it difficult to accept the modern piano we know today and preferred the harpsichord or the fortepiano. This is still the case today.
The modern piano still has its imperfections which, I consider, to be essential to its character. One which perhaps shouldn't be there (but always seems to be) is a resonance of strings meeooowing due to hammers, unison defects or settings etc, I know not. I never experienced that in my straight strung upright when I was young, but it seems always there on modern ones. Pianoteq and particularly digital manufacurers always remove these peripheral sounds. One of these days they won't. . . Then we'll have it all! Will we actually like it? Like so many extraneous live sounds, at a distance they become diminished greatly.
Version 7 is even better. Modartt has done an incredible job.
I agree.
Until now Pianoteq has always been something I plugged into just for a variety now and then and usually within an hour or 2 ... would go back to my internal sounds of my digital piano.
Now, however, that has changed.
I have my laptop on all of the time with Pianoteq 7 running and when I turn on my digital piano it automatically brings up the Pianoteq piano for sound.
I don't even think about it anymore.
It is just a piano sound that sounds good to me and I spend my time playing or practicing instead of analyzing sound.
That to me is a major milestone for this software.
Don
Kawai MP7SE, On Stage KS7350 keyboard stand, KRK Classic 5 powered monitors, SennHeiser HD 559 Headphones
Version 7 is even better. Modartt has done an incredible job.
I agree.
Until now Pianoteq has always been something I plugged into just for a variety now and then and usually within an hour or 2 ... would go back to my internal sounds of my digital piano.
Now, however, that has changed.
I have my laptop on all of the time with Pianoteq 7 running and when I turn on my digital piano it automatically brings up the Pianoteq piano for sound.
I don't even think about it anymore.
It is just a piano sound that sounds good to me and I spend my time playing or practicing instead of analyzing sound.
That to me is a major milestone for this software.
Why bother turning off your piano? My set up seems similar. I love rattling the keys and hearing the thing on my way to opening the window . . . it wakes the dog up.
listened to some demo on pianoteq site or on youtube. Steinway D sounds really good, I can listen to that pieces whitout any problem in term of musical pleasure. I don't hear flawed / synthetic things that disturb me to listen to the music, perhaps this is not the exact sound, but it is convinccing enough to not be bothered with that (i don't notice or be distracted). I think this is really the first time...
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In the interim look at this adorable man. He really loves his music .
After playing with NY Steinwey much more I have to say that this is without a doubt my favorite preset in Pianoteq now. So sweet yet bright, like real Steinwey can be.
After playing with NY Steinwey much more I have to say that this is without a doubt my favorite preset in Pianoteq now. So sweet yet bright, like real Steinwey can be.
Yea I got it in the Black Friday sale. It really is the best instrument they offer right now, an amazing step up from before.
Just picked my 4 instrument packs and ran a blind piano testing through my P-125 over USB Audio.
My wife ranked them in this order, best to worst:
1. Blüthner Model One - nice & bright 2. Steinway Model B - nice & mellow 3. C. Bechstein 282 & Yamaha CFIIIS (internal P-125 samples) - borderline 4. NY Steinway D - metallic / nails on chalk board 5. HB Steinway D - metallic / nails on chalk board
I have made no adjustments to the default presets. Any suggestions on improving the Steinway Ds?
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You can reduce the metallic sound via the velocity curve. As you get closer to MIDI value 127, the sound becomes more metallic. If you therefore limit the velocity curve, so that it doesn't get quite that high (i.e. flatten the curve), the metallic sounds will be dampened. A side effect is that that the dynamic range then is dampened as well, but that can be offset by increasing the dynamic range via the designated slider for dynamic range.
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Just picked my 4 instrument packs and ran a blind piano testing through my P-125 over USB Audio.
My wife ranked them in this order, best to worst:
1. Blüthner Model One - nice & bright 2. Steinway Model B - nice & mellow 3. C. Bechstein 282 & Yamaha CFIIIS (internal P-125 samples) - borderline 4. NY Steinway D - metallic / nails on chalk board 5. HB Steinway D - metallic / nails on chalk board
I have made no adjustments to the default presets. Any suggestions on improving the Steinway Ds?
Ich would go through the numerous presets of those two, there are big differences there.
Just picked my 4 instrument packs and ran a blind piano testing through my P-125 over USB Audio.
My wife ranked them in this order, best to worst:
1. Blüthner Model One - nice & bright 2. Steinway Model B - nice & mellow 3. C. Bechstein 282 & Yamaha CFIIIS (internal P-125 samples) - borderline 4. NY Steinway D - metallic / nails on chalk board 5. HB Steinway D - metallic / nails on chalk board
I have made no adjustments to the default presets. Any suggestions on improving the Steinway Ds?
Ich would go through the numerous presets of those two, there are big differences there.
It seems that P125 has stronger high frequencies or something, still doesn't completely explain what you describe, I'd try to use equalizer and lower volume of high frequencies, also there is mellow preset I think, and you can adjust hammer hardness as well. Anyway I must agree Bluthner is awesome.
I feel like they tweaked the response. Or maybe it's the updated sound. I had a session with v6, tried v7, but found I'd have to adjust some MIDI velocities. So I stuck with v6 in that case. Hey, v6 still sounds pretty good. lol Bluthner still sounds richest to me.
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