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Originally Posted by loydb
Personally, I think a total newbie should get lessons from a human being to establish proper fundamentals. YMMV.
Some people can't afford that (PM is around $100 for a year, compared to $50 per lesson in person)
Some people are still staying quarantined
Some people just want to try it out and see if they like it before a person-to-person relationship.
PM is a nice alternative, and you can move at your own speed instead of having to do certain things by the next lesson.


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Originally Posted by loydb
Personally, I think a total newbie should get lessons from a human being to establish proper fundamentals. YMMV.
Some people can't afford that (PM is around $100 for a year, compared to $50 per lesson in person)
Some people are still staying quarantined
Some people just want to try it out and see if they like it before a person-to-person relationship.
PM is a nice alternative, and you can move at your own speed instead of having to do certain things by the next lesson.

Or people like me who simply don’t want a piano teacher. And never will.

I’ve also never wanted a golf coach or tennis coach.

I have no aspirations of becoming a great pianist. I just do it for fun.


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[quote=loydb]Yes, except the 4-E version doesn't modulate like that.
Noobie here as well, about 2 months in using flowkey, alfred's, sight-reading books & just grabbed a couple faber books. I haven't found something 'all encompassing' just yet, maybe without a teacher there isn't one self teaching method that has it all or maybe my OCD just tells me MORE!!! smile

You can try Piano Marvel for free 1 month ... ideal for an OCD. The drive to get 100% everywhere and gold trophies is so great that you learn to play the piano without even realizing it wink https://pianomarvel.com/


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Originally Posted by loydb
Personally, I think a total newbie should get lessons from a human being to establish proper fundamentals. YMMV.
You are absolutely right, but sometimes there is no piano teacher available or you cannot afford it ... and then PM is the best alternative in my humble opinion.


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Originally Posted by Sarah65
You can try Piano Marvel for free 1 month ... ideal for an OCD. The drive to get 100% everywhere and gold trophies is so great that you learn to play the piano without even realizing it wink https://pianomarvel.com/

I downloaded the trial yesterday. Am I missing something or is the practice structure up to you to create, unlike a method book where the next thing you're to learn is on the next page? There appears to be a lot of great info and instruction but it appears to be laid out in a DIY manner.


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I downloaded the trial yesterday. Am I missing something or is the practice structure up to you to create, unlike a method book where the next thing you're to learn is on the next page? There appears to be a lot of great info and instruction but it appears to be laid out in a DIY manner.

It's simple, you start in level 1 technique and then you do level 1 method. Try to keep both at the same height. You can also choose something from the library, you can also choose your level there.


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Hit a bit of a milestone today - now at 50% on both technique and method. After a few months of almost no playing this is a great way to get back into structured practice - what a wonderful piece of software this is.

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Originally Posted by Sarah65
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I downloaded the trial yesterday. Am I missing something or is the practice structure up to you to create, unlike a method book where the next thing you're to learn is on the next page? There appears to be a lot of great info and instruction but it appears to be laid out in a DIY manner.

It's simple, you start in level 1 technique and then you do level 1 method. Try to keep both at the same height. You can also choose something from the library, you can also choose your level there.

Wow, tons of information in there! flowkey has some but if I was only using flowkey for theory, it ends pretty quickly. It's great for songs but the amount of theory and sight-reading doesn't even come close to PM.


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Hi, I had to get online and just say that my mind is blown! Today I reached Arabia...and reading all the earlier posts regarding this piece I was kind of scared how it will go.
I am happy to anounce it took me only 3 tries to get it in slow mode and 6 in fast. I don't know how, I tought it will be a blocker piece for quite some time but it went so smoothly that I am still in shock.
I just had to post this because I can't even believe it. I consider myself lucky after this smile

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When I was learning Sunrise I could never not hear this:



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Originally Posted by petricak
Hi, I had to get online and just say that my mind is blown! Today I reached Arabia...and reading all the earlier posts regarding this piece I was kind of scared how it will go.
I am happy to anounce it took me only 3 tries to get it in slow mode and 6 in fast. I don't know how, I tought it will be a blocker piece for quite some time but it went so smoothly that I am still in shock.
I just had to post this because I can't even believe it. I consider myself lucky after this smile

I probably did the fast version on my 6th try.

...... however I’d probably been practicing it for 5 days before attempting it smile

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When I was learning Sunrise I could never not hear this:


Oh yeah. I thought it reminded me of something smile


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When I was learning Sunrise I could never not hear this:

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No Arabia, I'd rather play something else;)



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what a beautiful piece - and well played. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Sarah65
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When I was learning Sunrise I could never not hear this:

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It's "How Far I'll Go" from the Moana soundtrack. I don't think it's coincidence, there's a few pieces in PM that have bits that sounds note and rhythm like popular songs, with just enough modification to not be copyright violations.


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[quote=Chrispy]When I was learning Sunrise I could never not hear this:


It's "How Far I'll Go" from the Moana soundtrack. I don't think it's coincidence, there's a few pieces in PM that have bits that sounds note and rhythm like popular songs, with just enough modification to not be copyright violations.

Please keep this to yourself in the future, thank you. I already have so much to remember when I learn something new, now I also see cartoon characters ... so confusing laugh


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Finished 4-E! On to 5...

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Finished 4-E! On to 5...

Congratulations! I'm working on the dreaded 'Mexican Hat Dance'. Almost there!


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Finished 4-E! On to 5...

Congratulations! I'm working on the dreaded 'Mexican Hat Dance'. Almost there!

Yeah, that was a sticking point for a few days (I won't move on until I 100% something). For the B section, working just the right hand to get it up to tempo was what finally got me over.

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Heart and Soul in 5A is a real test of endurance. shocked

I can play it at speed for a while but then my mind starts to panic and it all goes to pieces. grin

It’s great practice for playing without looking at your hands as you stop looking at them without even realising.


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