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Hello,

From my experience with the Roland FP-10, I'd have a hard time believing that the FP-30X maxes out its velocity value range below 127.

I always use the default (middle/linear) touch sensitivity setting on the FP-10 and can produce all note-on velocity values 1--127. Of course you have to rather pound the keys to reach the highest range, but I'd figure this neatly corresponds to acoustic instrument behavior. So I'm totally happy with the way it is.

So @zenof, unless Roland made a weird, to me implausible software change in the FP-30X, its MIDI behavior should be quite good. Could it be that the touch setting on the unit you played was set at 'heavy' without you knowing that?

Now the P45 by Yamaha really is limited in its MIDI range and capabilities. Also, the Casio CDP-S100 that I tested last year suffers (somewhat but less pronounced) from a more limited behavior as @Gombessa suspects some cheaper digital pianos do.

Cheers and happy decision making,

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So @zenof, unless Roland made a weird, to me implausible software change in the FP-30X, its MIDI behavior should be quite good. Could it be that the touch setting on the unit you played was set at 'heavy' without you knowing that?

Hmm, actually that's how I noticed that it caps out at around 100.

I was testing it and looking at the MIDI values it sends and I had a hard time getting anywhere near f/ffs, so I put
the touch on light and in that setting it would be fairly obvious that ~100 or whereabouts is the upper range it never goes past.

I didn't use "break plastic" kind of force since it wasn't my instrument, but I did mash it fast and HARD.

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Hello,

@zenof, Hmmm... it still seems odd to me. Should your findings be consistent across all units, that'd be a serious deal-breaker for the FP-30X.

Maybe others with new FP-30Xs can help verify this.

Again my experience with the FP-10s MIDI behavior is more than satisfactory, using the same PHA-4 Standard action as the FP-30X.

Cheers and for hopes of better outcomes,

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Hello,
So @zenof, unless Roland made a weird, to me implausible software change in the FP-30X, its MIDI behavior should be quite good. Could it be that the touch setting on the unit you played was set at 'heavy' without you knowing that?

Hmm, actually that's how I noticed that it caps out at around 100.

I was testing it and looking at the MIDI values it sends and I had a hard time getting anywhere near f/ffs, so I put
the touch on light and in that setting it would be fairly obvious that ~100 or whereabouts is the upper range it never goes past.

I didn't use "break plastic" kind of force since it wasn't my instrument, but I did mash it fast and HARD.


Honestly, your finding seems strange to me, I have a roland fp30 x and for midi it reaches all the values ​​it is excellent, I think it must be some error with your unit, brother

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I think it must be some error with your unit, brother
Or maybe the way the MIDI traffic is being observed? I would put a low level MIDI logger on it and then check the file for raw data values. Don't allow something higher level to "process" the data in anyway. Just look at the raw bytes on the MIDI bus.

Tools like Pocket-MIDI and MIDI-Ox (Windows/PC) have the ability to monitor the totally raw data.

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Originally Posted by davick
I think it must be some error with your unit, brother
Or maybe the way the MIDI traffic is being observed? I would put a low level MIDI logger on it and then check the file for raw data values. Don't allow something higher level to "process" the data in anyway. Just look at the raw bytes on the MIDI bus.

Tools like Pocket-MIDI and MIDI-Ox (Windows/PC) have the ability to monitor the totally raw data.
I'll double check-it once I get a chance to play with it again.

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Originally Posted by davick
I think it must be some error with your unit, brother
Or maybe the way the MIDI traffic is being observed? I would put a low level MIDI logger on it and then check the file for raw data values. Don't allow something higher level to "process" the data in anyway. Just look at the raw bytes on the MIDI bus.

Tools like Pocket-MIDI and MIDI-Ox (Windows/PC) have the ability to monitor the totally raw data.
I'll double check-it once I get a chance to play with it again.

Have you discovered the root cause of your issue?


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