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My tech told me about machines at Bösendorfer that pound the keys 20,000-30,000 times to simulate playing after the first voicing. I'm very curious about these machines. Are they used by all the companies? Do they do scales or do they mash all the keys at once (hopefully in a soundproof room)? Do the machines just have one level of force or does it do different levels?

Reminds me of the machine they had at the IKEA in Calgary (not sure if it's still there) where they had a machine punching an upholstered chair to show that the products last. As a kid, it was the best part about going to IKEA 😂


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Here is one of ours. We built our own and it still works 20 years later. This one is from WNG
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Originally Posted by Keith D Kerman
Here is one of ours. We built our own and it still works 20 years later. This one is from WNG
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Cool, thanks for the video! How long do you let it run to break in the hammers?


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It depends on the piano and the hammers. It helps stabilize the regulation as well.
We often leave it going overnight. Sometimes only a few hours. Sometimes several nights.


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Originally Posted by Keith D Kerman
It depends on the piano and the hammers. It helps stabilize the regulation as well.
We often leave it going overnight. Sometimes only a few hours. Sometimes several nights.

Thank you! All my curiosity is now satisfied 😂


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Very interesting. Thanks twocats for the question and thanks Keith for the answer!

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I found it on another website with price. For $2K USD, you too could own a pounder! Probably more after shipping.


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Originally Posted by twocats

I found it on another website with price. For $2K USD, you too could own a pounder! Probably more after shipping.
This would be great party entertainment! 😂😂😂


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It plays in 7/4 time. Shades of Keith Emerson.

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I believe QRS will sell you a key pounder, also.


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Originally Posted by terminaldegree
I believe QRS will sell you a key pounder, also.

I found this video!



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Originally Posted by twocats
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I believe QRS will sell you a key pounder, also.

I found this video!

I need to learn this piece for my next get-together. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣


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We use the one from QRS with programs of different durations then set them to run after hours. We occasionally run it on some new pianos if they seem "green".


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I was also going to suggest their Pianomation OT!
If you like a player, it would have that added benefit for long term use, and you could also program it to play things that sound more musical, so as not to torment your ears while the keys are played in.





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Originally Posted by Retsacnal
I was also going to suggest their Pianomation OT!
If you like a player, it would have that added benefit for long term use, and you could also program it to play things that sound more musical, so as not to torment your ears while the keys are played in.

Whoa the price!! shocked

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Originally Posted by twocats
Originally Posted by Retsacnal
I was also going to suggest their Pianomation OT!
If you like a player, it would have that added benefit for long term use, and you could also program it to play things that sound more musical, so as not to torment your ears while the keys are played in.

Whoa the price!! shocked

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Yikes! I didn't check the price (I've never been interested in player systems).


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Check out videos from Piano Restorations LTD UK on Instagram or Facebook. Multiple exams of several different types. Wonder if a rebuilder would loan or rent their machine to you?

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Originally Posted by N Artur
Check out videos from Piano Restorations LTD UK on Instagram or Facebook. Multiple exams of several different types. Wonder if a rebuilder would loan or rent their machine to you?

It's okay, I'm just going to play it in manually as prescribed by my tech. I don't think we could stand to run a pounding machine for hours and hours in our home smile


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I’ve toured the Bösendorfer factory in Wienerneustadt four times and have never witnessed such a machine. Their quality control procedures are incredible. I have seen and witnessed those including their significant documentation. They are unsurpassed. They know how to feel their quality and don’t need machines to regulate them.

The action on mine came from Renner, Germany. Maybe they do pounding there?


You could easily send Bösendorfer an email and ask. They will definitely get back to you.

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