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Yes, superb new and free feature that improves and extends what has already been achieved.
Thank you Modartt for being so attentive and kind to your customers.

Sarcasm?

No, just my reaction to the usual bashing.
And now back to Pianoteq enjoying music.
God bless

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I want to know what colour the Felt is before I go anywhere near this product!


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And I hope it was sustainably sourced.
Has anyone compared the Digital Felt to the Acoustic yet? Shall I start a thread?


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Originally Posted by stamkorg
Originally Posted by Pete14
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Yes, superb new and free feature that improves and extends what has already been achieved.
Thank you Modartt for being so attentive and kind to your customers.

Sarcasm?

No, just my reaction to the usual bashing.
And now back to Pianoteq enjoying music.
God bless

And Pete14 knows a lot in this area...


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Originally Posted by OU812
And I hope it was sustainably sourced.
Has anyone compared the Digital Felt to the Acoustic yet? Shall I start a thread?

Well if you do, please be very in-depth.
What saturation is the color?
What is the thread count?
what is the reflective properties of the felt?
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And Pete14 knows a lot in this area...


Wow that was like a light bulb burning full brightness for me as I never would of guessed Pete14 as being sarcastic shocked


All these years playing and I still consider myself a novice.
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And Pete14 knows a lot in this area...


Wow that was like a light bulb burning full brightness for me as I never would of guessed Pete14 as being sarcastic shocked

Seeing light is one of a thing...

He likes to say he is giving his humble opinion, but may be he is also sacarstic...


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I like them and i got them for free, so what? laugh


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There are lots of threads here that I don't post on because I don't like, or don't use those specific instruments - whether that's VSTs or physical instruments - not hard.

The new concert hall reverb is lovely, and very different to the other preset ambience settings. I hope this is a sign of things to come, because I do think they could do with improving.

As always, it's great to see Modartt listening to their userbase and implementing features that people will use.

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I must admit this forum is rather entertaining at times lol...

Such dislike for Pianoteq..

Like a passionate disdain for it.

It's like reading up on US politics ... or most politics for that matter..

:P

I guess I'm one of the few folks that don't really pick a side.

I see the beauty in sampled pianos and I see it in Pianoteq... Yes I said it..

Come on guys.

Lets just enjoy the pros and cons of both techs while we still can

If they perfect either one we would have nothing to read or talk about.

And where would be the fun in that.

Easy there.. Is there anyone else in this forum that actually likes Pianoteq though? I'm curious.

Am I a loner here frown

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Has anyone ever Played a one hundred year old acoustic that is terribly out of tune and in dire need of some love.. and despite all of this... They connected with it?

It happens a lot with the older English pianos that came with the cream keys here..

Sometimes there is beauty in the imperfection as well.

I always tend to use the little slider to make Pianoteq a little less "perfect"

To me it adds a bit of realism.

Depending on the mood I'm in.

Sometimes you want that pitch perfect sound.
Others not so much.

Pianoteq isn't for everyone I gather that much

But a lot of folks, myself included. Do enjoy playing it. A lot.

Some people lover Earl Grey, Others Lipton,

Some folks love Chai.

you get the idea right guys?

Anyways Cheers

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Your thoughts are mine Mta88. I hope that your way of telling them will help to make this forum less immature.


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I think you are the one missing the point. Pianoteq is hugely used in the movie soundtrack industry, tv advertising, for ontemporary dance soundtracks and isntallations as well as by artists as diverse as James Blake, David Sylvian, Nils Frahm, Brian Eno who do not always want or need the sterotypical sound of a Steinway in their music.

I swear I recognise the signature of Pianoteq and Organteq in the soundtrack from this epic scene in 'Game of Thrones'. Not necessarily sounds you would use in the concert hall or for a Mozart recording but just perfect in this context.



For those who want a 'realistic' emulation, Pianoteq out of the box is already plenty good enough unless you have cloth ears. Yes, you do need to do a little work with the presets, moving the microphones has a massive effect and you also need to apply reverb and mastering to your finished recording just as you would with an acoustic piano to tame the dynamic range.

I have recorded Prokofiev's Vision Fugitives using Pianoteq as a project. I am very lucky to have a friend who is a world class pianist who has made more than 20 CDs on one of the most important classical labels. He is kind enough to give me some advice from time to time. His first comment to me on listening to the CD was "You would make an excellent sound engineer that is a fabulous piano sound, what is it?" grin when I told hm what it was he said he would never have occured to him that it was a digital until I told him.

Then he proceeded to tell me all about myself and my piano 'playing' ... which is fair enough, I do want to improve after all. Ho hum smile

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Telling me that you like Pianoteq does not make me like Pianoteq. Sorry.

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Telling him that you don't like Pianoteq does not make him to not like Pianoteq.
What is the point, you are doing the same thing but the other way around.
It reminds me of school when I was 6.

Now I understand all this digital things, it is 0 or 1, love or hate, you are with me or against me, Yamaha or a looser... Etc...
Piano is all about nuances, so with guys like you, digital piano is very far away from acoustic piano.
Enjoy your life

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I must say that MacMacMac excels in sounding like a broken record.
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Pianoteq 7.4 also introduces a “unison width humanization option”. This, combined with the condition slider, allows for even more personalization. Great update indeed.

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Pianoteq 7.4 also introduces a “unison width humanization option”. This, combined with the condition slider, allows for even more personalization. Great update indeed.

This works quite well, makes the unison option sound way more natural.

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Is it like a bad piano tuner simulator? 😉

And I do own and kind of like Pianoteq.

And Earl Grey vs. Lipton isn't a correct dichotomy as Earl Grey is a flavor of tea and Lipton is a brand who makes Earl Grey too among other types of tea.

And just like Captain Jean-Luc Picard I also do like tea, Earl Grey, hot.

I've also seen "Russian Earl Grey". For people with wrong kind of opinions there's then a special blend called "Russian Early Grave", but that's getting sort of political, so enough about that awful joke. 😉

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Originally Posted by Mta88
Easy there.. Is there anyone else in this forum that actually likes Pianoteq though? I'm curious.

Am I a loner here frown

*Sad face*

I actually do like Pianoteq. It was the first VI I used extensively, uploaded a few videos using it to YT, but there is still a long improvement path for Modartt - no matter what PTQ acoustic simulation I choose, it has this synthy/hollow characteristics. Some are better, some are worse. Hopefully one day it will be gone (the synthy thing, not PTQ!). Nowadays I'm using sampled stuff most of the time because of the sound (timbre?), but I must admit, when it comes to dynamics control, proper pedal behaviour, general PLAYING experience, I haven't found a VI that is on pair with PTQ.

I'm going to download 7.4 update today and check what was improved.


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