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I have a NV5 on hold and now a NV10 is available. Has anyone tried both and how do they compare? I've only tried the NV5 and like it very much except the upright action part. Unfortunately, the NV10 is in a different location, so I can't A/B them. Does the NV10 sound as good?
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I've only tried the NV5 and like it very much except the upright action part. Then I think you will be very happy with NV10 or NV10S. Osho
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It will be hard if one does have to choose I guess - NV5 for sound board and NV10 for grand action: see details here on Merriam Piano NV5 vs NV10 according to Stu Harrison
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It will be hard if one does have to choose I guess - NV5 for sound board and NV10 for grand action: see details here on Merriam Piano NV5 vs NV10 according to Stu Harrison Wish there was a hybrid of the two of them.
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Wish there was a hybrid of the two of them. Same here, "luckily" I don't have to make a decision at the moment due to my still low play level. Let's hope Kawai currently "separates" the sound board feature only to "test the water" since the market for hybrid is still young...
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Perhaps I (we?) should wait for the NV11?  Hey Pete14: Will the NV11 have a soundboard?
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Perhaps I (we?) should wait for the NV11?  Hey Pete14: Will the NV11 have a soundboard? Yes, but keep in mind it’s called the NV20 (confirmed by James). 
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Yes, but keep in mind it’s called the NV20 (confirmed by James).  I don't recall confirming anything.  I just suggested that if a larger NV instrument was to be developed, it would likely have a model number divisible by 5. Cheers, James x
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The obvious differences are: - size
- aesthetics (NV5 looks like a small but "complete" piano from all sides, unlike NV10)
- upright action vs grand action
- speaker system
Less obvious differences: - "waiting for NV5" probably means NV5S (latest sound engine), while "NV10 in stock" probably means old stock (previous sound engine and touchscreen module).
If you play with headphones mostly and dislike the upright action, then clearly go for the NV10.
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Perhaps I (we?) should wait for the NV11?  Hey Pete14: Will the NV11 have a soundboard? More importantly, what will be the pivot length? 
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The obvious differences are: - size
- aesthetics (NV5 looks like a small but "complete" piano from all sides, unlike NV10)
- upright action vs grand action
- speaker system
Less obvious differences: - "waiting for NV5" probably means NV5S (latest sound engine), while "NV10 in stock" probably means old stock (previous sound engine and touchscreen module).
If you play with headphones mostly and dislike the upright action, then clearly go for the NV10. I do play mostly through headphones and it is the upright piano action I'm most concerned about. It seems the NV10 would be better. I'm going to study the thread on what the differences are between the NV10 and NV10s.
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Tenor1, if you're still deciding between these, I think it makes absolutely sense to go out of your way to the extent possible to compare the new S versions against the originals...this is a big purchase and well worth feeling like you've made the right decision.
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Tenor1, if you're still deciding between these, I think it makes absolutely sense to go out of your way to the extent possible to compare the new S versions against the originals...this is a big purchase and well worth feeling like you've made the right decision. OOOH I wish that could be possible, but alas I don't think I can wait. This is a replacement of a water-damaged piano. If I wait for the shop to get any NVs models I must take a depreciation on the value of the damaged piano. It would be significant in the amount of money, which adds to the cost of the new instrument. I can get the current models of the NV5 and NV10 at a reduced cost purchasing now. It would be a cost difference of almost $8,000 to wait.
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I don't understand. Your old piano is junked, is that right?
Was it insured? If so, get your insurance check ... and spend the money whenever you please, wherever you please, on whatever you please.
Or am I missing something?
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I don't understand. Your old piano is junked, is that right?
Was it insured? If so, get your insurance check ... and spend the money whenever you please, wherever you please, on whatever you please.
Or am I missing something? Yes the piano is junked, but we were told that we had to replace it. If we didn't then the depreciation comes into play. I thought we would get a check for the replacement and then there wouldn't be so much pressure on replacement when inventory is so scarce. It doesn't make sense to me and I'm still awaiting the call from the adjustor. The Casio was two-years-old and the policy is for full replacement. I put money down on the available NV5 and now there is a NV10 to consider. That's why I've asked if people who have tried both instruments for opinions. There is going to be a charge to remove the old piano, but I intend to keep the bench.
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The sound difference of NV10 to NV10s does not probably justify the price difference of 8k of loosing insurance depreciation (particularly through headphones). If you have the opportunity between readily available nv5 or nv10, hit the road, try them, and take one home before they fly off the shelf (and do not write here the name of the dealer before you have signed, or Mac^3 will drive to california and snatch it from the shop... 😊
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That's why I've asked if people who have tried both instruments for opinions. I had a NV10 and have a NV5 for nearly two years. My NV10 had several issues that might have been fixed in the newer Version. The only thing i miss from the NV10 is the form factor. It's a stylish instrument. I don't mind that the NV5 has an upright action. Both are perfectly playable.
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That's why I've asked if people who have tried both instruments for opinions. I had a NV10 and have a NV5 for nearly two years. My NV10 had several issues that might have been fixed in the newer Version. The only thing i miss from the NV10 is the form factor. It's a stylish instrument. I don't mind that the NV5 has an upright action. Both are perfectly playable. Thanks and I going with the NV5.
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That's why I've asked if people who have tried both instruments for opinions. I had a NV10 and have a NV5 for nearly two years. My NV10 had several issues that might have been fixed in the newer Version. The only thing i miss from the NV10 is the form factor. It's a stylish instrument. I don't mind that the NV5 has an upright action. Both are perfectly playable. Thanks and I going with the NV5. Just try that NV-10 for yourself, and thén make up your mind. Relying on some one else their opions makes you like a leaf in the wind. One wind blows you in the direction of a Yamaha Avantgrand N1-X another one to a Kawai Novus NV-10 and then back again to the NV-5. What do YOU want?
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Wise words. Just try that NV-10 for yourself, and thén make up your mind. Relying on some one else their opinions makes you like a leaf in the wind. One wind blows you in the direction of a Yamaha Avantgrand N1-X another one to a Kawai Novus NV-10 and then back again to the NV-5. What do YOU want?
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