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Originally Posted by maucycy
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Do they have two Faziolis (308 and 278)?

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Are you sure it is the 308 model. Why are they denoting it as model F278 in the recent stream?

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Yes she was very good.
There are two Steinways - one more soft and darker (number 300) and other more louder open and bright (479).
Besides there is one Fazioli 308, one Yamaha CFX and one Shigeru.

Maybe I had no luck, but so far I have not seen any competitor to play on CFX, but seen already few on Kawai. Most popular in Steinway 300. Fazioli is also used quite often.

According to their site, 64 competitors chose Steinway, 9 Yamaha, 8 Fazioli and 6 Kawai.
https://chopin2020.pl/en/news/artic...ticipants-of-the-18th-chopin-competition

BTW, in the recent stream they are denoting the Fazioli as model F278 Previously it was denoted as model 308. I am confused. Could anybody identify which Fazioli is actually used.


I think it's description mistake, however I bet on 308 as the piano looks really big.

I am waiting for Steingraeber and Bosendorfer VC and new Bechstein to be possible (instead for example Kawai and second Steinway).

But most choose Steinway as most probably they are mostly practicing on them in conservatories. Noone will risk unknown piano with different characteristics.

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I have no idea, definitely strange

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Originally Posted by Hakki
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Do they have two Faziolis (308 and 278)?

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Are you sure it is the 308 model. Why are they denoting it as model F278 in the recent stream?

The Fazioli 308 has 4 pedals as far as i know. The 2 pianos have only 3, so theoretically it is the 278 in both cases.


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You are absolutely right. Indeed 308 has four pedals.

From the Fazioli website:
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It is endowed with a fourth pedal invented by Fazioli. Located to the left of the three traditional pedals, it reduces the hammer-blow distance THUS reducing the volume without modifying the timbre, at the same time facilitating the performance of glissandos, pianissimos, rapid passages and legatos.

Thank you for the clarification that they are actually both model F278 and it was a typo error on their side. They seem to have corrected it now.

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Today is the last day of the prelims! Caught a little of the morning session so far and some of the evening session yesterday. It's increasingly clear that some competitors are just on another level than the others, who are still very accomplished. Chelsea Guo played beautifully, as did Riko Imai (very convincing starting with the etudes). Today, Khozyainov was fantastic and super controlled and played the best set of Etudes so far (he recorded the complete Chopin on his YT page). I liked Aimi's playing, but her stage presence seemed too cool for school (barely acknowledging the audience). Today's morning session was overall the strongest.

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I liked Kaoruko Igarashi‘s Scherzo. Hope she qualifies too.

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Here is my guess for the list of qualifiers:

1. Xuanyi Mao
2. Syzmon Nehring
3. Georgijs Osokins
4. Kamil Pacholec
5. Jinhyung Park
6. Leonardo Pierdomenico
7. Hao Rao
8. Sohgo Sawada
9. Aristo Sham
10. Talon Smith
11. Kyohei Sorita
12. Szu-Yu Su
13. Hayato Sumino
14. Yutong Sun
15. Aleksandra Świgut
16. Shunshun Tie
17. Sarah Tuan
18. Tomoharu Ushida
19. Andrzej Wierciński
20. Zi Xu
21. Boao Zhang
22. Piotr Alexewicz
23. Leonora Armellini
24. Kai-Min Chang
25. Xuehong Chen
26. Hyounglok Choi
27. Yasuko Furumi
28. Alexander Gadjiev
29. Avery Gagliano
30. Martín García García
31. Eva Gevorgyan
32. Chelsea Guo
33. Yifan Hou
34. Kaoruko Igarashi
35. Riko Imai
36. Nikolay Khozyainov
37. Su Yeon Kim
38. Aimi Kobayashi
39. Mateusz Krzyżowski
40. Bruce (Xiaoyu) Liu

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Originally Posted by FarmGirl
What did you guys think of Eva Gevorgyan? I liked her playing best. Her scherzo was out of this world.

She is a wonderful pianist with a fabulous technique. I actually thought she should have won the Cliburn junior. However, I'm not sure Chopin is really her schtick, partly for the reason Brendan cited. Her scherzo was too fast for my tastes and she clipped quite a few phrase endings. I liked her nocturne more and her etudes were all there technically. But I hated her some of her mannerisms, which she didn't have in the Cliburn, particularly the standing up every time she got excited. Very distracting. I remember someone doing the same thing during a master class with (Darth) Veda Kapinsky at PianoTexas in 2018. Veda was having none of it and really grilled the poor girl as to what she thought she was accomplishing by standing up while performing. Of course there was no good answer.


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Khozyainov was fantastic and super controlled and played the best set of Etudes so far (he recorded the complete Chopin on his YT page).

Yes, he seems almost in a class by himself in terms of maturity and finesse, not to mention a fabulous technique. I thought the 4th Ballade was absolutely outstanding. I'll be surprised if he doesn't at least make the finals.


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Sandwiched between Khozyainov and Aimi Kobayashi was Su Yeon Kim, who got eliminated in '15 after Stage 3. She played well also and returned to the stage during the applause. (Back in July this year at the Preliminary I was actually rooting for another S. Korea contestant Chi-Ho Han, who was also axed after Stage 3 in 2015 and in some ways I felt he played better than Kim at the Prelim. But he didn't make the cut this time.)


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What happened to Anastasia Yasko?
Was she distracted (phone?)?

Op. 10 No. 2 happened to her. She seemed terrified before starting it. Nobody should program that nightmare of a piece unless they can play it forwards, backwards, upside down, and inside out.


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According to people who saw it live, Kobayashi had a chair issue. It was too low. She said she was picked out the right chair but it wasn’t it. They brought in another one but it was exactly the same type. So she wound up playing on the first one that she rejected. To a Japanese interviewer right after the performance, she said that the instance broke concentration. She said that she did not know how she played. When she finally regained herself, it was already over. She said her stomach was twisting and churning. Her face was flushed and looked in pain. I think that is probably why she did not answer audience.

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^ I did see all that seat issue before Aimi played! Thank you for sharing. Considering all that, she played well.


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Kobayashi chair issue. Starts at about 3:38:30


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I saw the whole thing. It’s amazing she was able to play under that sort of circumstances.

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So, here's the full list straight from Chopin's Institute Facebook page:

1. Piotr Alexewicz, Polska
2. Leonora Armellini, Włochy
3. J J Jun Li Bui, Kanada
4. Michelle Candotti, Włochy
5. Kai-Min Chang, Chińskie Tajpej
6. Xuehong Chen, Chiny
7. Hyounglok Choi, Korea Południowa
8. Federico Gad Crema, Włochy
9. Alberto Ferro, Włochy
10. Yasuko Furumi, Japonia
11. Alexander Gadjiev, Włochy/Słowenia
12. Avery Gagliano, Stany Zjednoczone
13. Martin Garcia Garcia, Hiszpania
14. Eva Gevorgyan, Rosja/Armenia
15. Wei-Ting Hsieh, Chińskie Tajpej
16. Adam Kałduński, Polska
17. Nikolay Khozyainov, Rosja
18. Su Yeon Kim, Korea Południowa
19. Aimi Kobayashi, Japonia
20. Mateusz Krzyżowski, Polska
21. Jakub Kuszlik, Polska
22. Shushi Kyomasu, Japonia
23. Hyuk Lee, Korea Południowa
24. Bruce (Xiaoyu) Liu, Kanada
25. Arsenii Mun, Rosja
26. Szymon Nehring, Polska
27. Viet Trung Nguyen, Wietnam/Polska
28. Georgijs Osokins, Łotwa
29. Evren Ozel, Stany Zjednoczone
30. Kamil Pacholec, Polska
31. Hao Rao, Chiny
32. Sohgo Sawada, Japonia
33. Aristo Sham, Chiny/Hong Kong
34. Miyu Shindo, Japonia
35. Talon Smith, Stany Zjednoczone
36. Kyohei Sorita, Japonia
37. Szuyu Su, Chińskie Tajpej
38. Hayato Sumino, Japonia
39. Yutong Sun, Chiny
40. Tomoharu Ushida, Japonia
41. Marcin Wieczorek, Polska
42. Andrzej Wierciński, Polska
43. Yuchong Wu, Chiny
44. Lingfei (Stephan) Xie , Kanada/Chiny
45. Zi Xu, Chiny

As always, there are some surprises, but I'm looking forward to hearing the next stage for all the contestants that passed.

I'm especially excited about Nikolay Khozyainov and Sohgo Sawada, for totally different reasons.


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I am okay with the result. It matches with 30 names from my guess list.

Good to see that Kobayashi made it despite the chair issue.

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Are they going to play in the same order for the second stage starting from the letter “M”?

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