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...suspicion of hiring prostitute.....
and so what is wrong? he didn't paid? crazy


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My impression is that being arrested in China is not something to joke about. I hope it ends well for him.


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and so what is wrong? he didn't paid?

It is illegal in China to use this type of services.


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Or, at least, illegal when someone in power is annoyed with you.

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The few people in China who became world-renowned Classical pianists / pro musicians like Lang Lang & Yundi Li are treated like movie stars. Many people look up to these 2 as icons of Classical music and got into playing piano.

People who are on top like leaders of a country or the head of a piano association don't want to generate controversies. Like the recent sex scandal involving Prince Andrew & J Epstein caused both of them their careers & reputations. Movie & TV stars caught with drug possession would have their acting contracts cancelled.

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Without getting too much into the politics of this, there is a YouTube channel that indicates that he's more of an entertainer/dancing with the stars/pop icon lately than a classical pianist:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJFeyXXJmHKRAZun6IDxoBQ/videos

As for the performance "fails" there, the only thing I'll add is that I heard him right after the competition with Chopin E minor and he was fantastic (and Campanella as an encore was unreal), but about 5-6 years later when I heard him again there was a pretty huge decline (playing the same competition rep, too).

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After the news was leaked, it was quickly confirmed by the official news outlet which is untypical. Li's name is removed from the Chinese Musicians' Association。

He is likely also responsible for the damage he caused for all the commercial dealings he was a part of, which is in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

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After the news was leaked, it was quickly confirmed by the official news outlet which is untypical. Li's name is removed from the Chinese Musicians' Association。

He is likely also responsible for the damage he caused for all the commercial dealings he was a part of, which is in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

Assuming he is guilty of anything illegal. As he will not get a fair trial, or perhaps any trial, we will likely never know. He may just be out of favor with the CCP as they crack down on entertainers.


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Originally Posted by thepianoplayer416
The few people in China who became world-renowned Classical pianists / pro musicians like Lang Lang & Yundi Li are treated like movie stars. Many people look up to these 2 as icons of Classical music and got into playing piano.

People who are on top like leaders of a country or the head of a piano association don't want to generate controversies. Like the recent sex scandal involving Prince Andrew & J Epstein caused both of them their careers & reputations. Movie & TV stars caught with drug possession would have their acting contracts cancelled.

Numerous film and TV stars have come back from drug possession charges and addiction. Robert Downey, Jr. springs to mind. Yundi Li was arrested for allegedly hiring a prostitute. So was Eddie Murphy decades ago. This is small potatoes compared with what Prince Andrew is accused of, to say nothing of Jeffrey Epstein (or Ghislaine Maxwell) who allegedly trafficked in underaged girls. We might also remember that Mikhail Pletnev was accused of having sex with an underage boy, was acquitted, and continues to enjoy a successful career.

As for his pianism, I can only concur with what Brendan wrote. To the extent that Yundi Li even has a serious career anymore, I doubt this is a showstopper, especially if he decides to leave China.


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Strange decline in playing, hiring prostitutes, likely drug problem, appearing in bizarre pop performances...

Yundi needs to escape that hellhole ASAP and make a comeback.

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Seems like it's not the end for him, a state-owned newspaper has called for his reinstatement: https://slippedisc.com/2021/10/just-in-china-gives-yundi-li-a-second-chance/

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… Li undoubtedly did the wrong thing and violated laws. He is a celebrity, and it’s inevitable that he would pay a higher price for his fame. If stars are not self-disciplined, they will have to bear the risk that the more popular and famous they are, the heavier price they will pay after a tumble.

But, unlike Kris Wu who was charged with rape earlier, Li’s illegal actions are relatively less harmful to the society. Everyone has the right to reprimand Li, but meanwhile, all the reactions, if combined together, should be proportional and in line with societal standards.

Our society needs a clear direction, with clear-cut rules and adherence to commonly agreed upon standards. But at the same time, there must be sufficient internal room that not only allows for correctness and justice, seriousness and strictness, but also kindness and patience to encourage and save people.

I hope our internet culture can be clear about what to love or hate, punishing the evil and praising the good. It also needs to display the diversity of morality, avoiding going too far in any direction.

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Strange decline in playing, hiring prostitutes, likely drug problem, appearing in bizarre pop performances...

Yundi needs to escape that hellhole ASAP and make a comeback.

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