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Dear All, I like very much Kawai C29 sound, but I am a little appalled by the lack of audio over USB, USB stick recording - yes I know this is available on CN39 and other more expensive models, but…

As, if I am not wrong, there are no line out and aux in, I wonder if there is any trick to record CN29 maybe together with an aebersold…

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Apologies, I should have said CN29

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Connect the headphones out to line in of recorder / pc.


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Originally Posted by MarkOfJohnson
Connect the headphones out to line in of recorder / pc.

I am afraid this will not solve the issue of recording over a backing track.

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I guess "with an aebersold" might not be clear to everybody. 😄

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Originally Posted by clothearednincompo
I guess "with an aebersold" might not be clear to everybody. 😄

Indeed… especially to younger people smile

The meaning is: to record my performance on the DO while a cackling track is playing in the background.

PS Jamie Aebersold is a great jazz pianist and teacher who released a series of backing tracks CDs where you find the bass on the left channel and the piano on the right (the drum is on both).

So if you are a horn or guitar player you can play on it, while if you are a pianist or a bass player you can suppress the piano -or bass - channel and play with bass and drums - or piano and drums.

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Hello,

Originally Posted by WTF Bach
PS Jamie Aebersold is a great jazz pianist and teacher who released a series of backing tracks CDs where you find the bass on the left channel and the piano on the right (the drum is on both).

So if you are a horn or guitar player you can play on it, while if you are a pianist or a bass player you can suppress the piano -or bass - channel and play with bass and drums - or piano and drums.

That is interesting! At first I didn't quite get it but the trick to mute one channel (in our case piano) makes sense now.

Is this a method? Is it good and actually useful to get the hang of Jazz? Does it swing, is it inspiring musically (as opposed to being bland and mechanical as 'methods' often are)?

Piano and double bass in Jazz are my main musical love affairs.

Cheers and happy playing,

HZ

PS Did they record a proper double bass or more like a bass guitar?

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Originally Posted by WTF Bach
PS Jamie Aebersold is a great jazz pianist and teacher who released a series of backing tracks CDs where you find the bass on the left channel and the piano on the right (the drum is on both).

So if you are a horn or guitar player you can play on it, while if you are a pianist or a bass player you can suppress the piano -or bass - channel and play with bass and drums - or piano and drums.

That is interesting! At first I didn't quite get it but the trick to mute one channel (in our case piano) makes sense now.

Is this a method? Is it good and actually useful to get the hang of Jazz? Does it swing, is it inspiring musically (as opposed to being bland and mechanical as 'methods' often are)?

Piano and double bass in Jazz are my main musical love affairs.

Cheers and happy playing,

HZ

PS Did they record a proper double bass or more like a bass guitar?

1) this is not a method, but a series of play-along CDs. Nevertheless, in the accompanying booklets you can find some info about scales, voicings etc. But if you look for a method, please read “the jazz piano book” and “the jazz theory book” by Mark Levine

2) Jamie is a great jazzman, and on his play-along serie (more than 100 CDs) you can find great bass players and drummers

3) it swings like fire! And there are hundreds of tracks: blues, II V I, rhythms, standards, Latin, modal and modern, monographic CDs about specific composers-musicians, even jazz/rock and fusion…

4) usually they record a true double bass, except for the more modern/jazz-rock issues.

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Hello,

@WTF Bach, Thank you for the useful tips!

Sounds fun and addictive, I think I should look into it.

As for Aebersold, which one would be an ideal starting point?

Cheers and happy Swinging like fire 😋,

HZ

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> "but I am a little appalled by the lack of audio over USB, USB stick recording - yes I know this is available on CN39 and other more expensive models, but…"

Well, the CN29 is bare-bones which is quite obvious from the specs.

One trick is the acoustic one, to play the backing track via speakers and use a microphone for recording of both.

If this is not acceptable to you, you can connect phones-out of the CN29 and the backing-track audio signal to an audio mixer, which you in turn connect to a recording device.

The CN29 does have USB MIDI output, so it is possible to connect it to a piano VST running on a computer. If you play the backing track as mp3 on the computer, you can mix both and record.

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Originally Posted by HZPiano
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@WTF Bach, Thank you for the useful tips!

Sounds fun and addictive, I think I should look into it.

As for Aebersold, which one would be an ideal starting point?

Cheers and happy Swinging like fire 😋,

HZ

May I suggest to visit Jamie website?

https://www.jazzbooks.com/

To start, may I suggest “nothin’ but blues”?

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> "but I am a little appalled by the lack of audio over USB, USB stick recording - yes I know this is available on CN39 and other more expensive models, but…"

Well, the CN29 is bare-bones which is quite obvious from the specs.

One trick is the acoustic one, to play the backing track via speakers and use a microphone for recording of both.

If this is not acceptable to you, you can connect phones-out of the CN29 and the backing-track audio signal to an audio mixer, which you in turn connect to a recording device.

The CN29 does have USB MIDI output, so it is possible to connect it to a piano VST running on a computer. If you play the backing track as mp3 on the computer, you can mix both and record.

Thanks, this could be a nice strategy.

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Hello,

Originally Posted by WTF Bach
May I suggest to visit Jamie website?

https://www.jazzbooks.com/

To start, may I suggest “nothin’ but blues”?

You may and with thanks! This just might be a very interesting and fun discovery for me 😀.

Cheers and happy playing,

HZ

PS Good luck with your recording efforts!


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