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#3183874 01/10/22 04:21 AM
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Since a few sessions ago when we began the Czerny exercises , my teacher has been persuading me to change my piano and buy something like the ydp series, which according to him, has a more piano-like touch whereas mine has a more synth-like light touch.

My personal experience with this Korg keyboard has been very good and I always found its key-bed enjoyable to play. Also my previous keyboard was a P-115 -featuring GHS key-bed- that felt rather light under my fingers so I'm not sure what my teacher is talking about. I may have to visit a shop and try a ydp hands-on. What is your opinion on this?

Now my main question is that - since I use Pianoteq and route the sound through the Korg's speakers- would I be able to do the same with a ydp? I didn't find aux-in jack in their specs except for the ydp-164 model I think. My Korg does not have such a jack either, but I worked around it by connecting the speaker wires instead.

P.S I can't afford a CLP or any other pricier keyboard, so please do not suggest such things. :-)


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For playing a VST through the speakers of the YDP 164 you can just connect it with an usb cable to the computer.
You don't need an aux-in jack.
If you are using Windows, then just install the Yamaha Steinberg driver and disable "local control" in the piano.


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Arius YDP models have two different actions. There's
- GHS in the cheap ones
- GH3 in YDP-164 and YDP-S54

So, "YDP series" isn't enough information.

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Yeah, well, I think the ydp-164 is too expensive to exchange with my Korg C1, so the lower models are my main target but do they provide the same usb-audio feature as the ydp-164? If not, then am I out of options in this regard?


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I'd focus on "[...] mine [Korg C1] has a more synth-like light touch."

What is that (teacher's) opinion based on?

Has (s)he played on a C1 or some other Korg with the RH3 action? The B1 and B2 have a different action.

Will GHS really be heavier and more piano-like?

Did (s)he maybe specifically mean Ariuses with GH3?

(I don't have the answers.)

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What's your budget?

Getting a YDP with GHS action instead of the Korg C1 is IMHO not worth it.
When you anyway plan to use Pianoteq or other VST, the Kawai VPC1 is maybe your best affordable option (1300 €).


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As usual there are two ways to experience the lightness/heaviness:
- Turn off the piano and play. That's the actual weight of the keys.
- Play with sound. How the volume/timbre changes are set up will affect how you feel it.

Low volume -> You'll be banging the keys on the digital and making loud sounds on an acoustic piano etc.

Overly sensitive action -> Even the lightest touch makes a loud noise and the action feels "light". You'll maybe drop some pianissimo notes on a acoustic by playing too carefully.

(...is my humble opinion as a mere hobbyist.)

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Has your teacher played your piano? It is an almost universal opinion that the NH3 action of the Korg C1 is far better than the GHS action of the entry level Arius. Pedal behaviour and sound richness may be better in the Yamaha, but again it is arguable.

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Yes he has.

@clothearednincompo: He was comparing against an older YDP model featuring GHS. I agree about the no-sound experiment. I'll suggest to him the same approach and based on that, see what I can do with the sound-touch adjustment. To me though, it does feel well despite the touch curve being a concurve one and the dynamics being set to <40 db. That means, a low volume touch/dynamics setting, makes the sound-touch connection feel disproportionate to me, as on a relatively lighter keybed I'll have to strike harder to bring out the fortissimo.

On the sound routing subject, I found that the cheaper ydp models also feature the usb-to-host function, so I suppose it's possible to replicate my current setup.


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That's just weird, the RH3 on the Korg is much better than Yamaha's GHS. It's also not light and synth-like at all, the weight necessary for the key to start moving is like 70-80 grams, if anything it's too heavy. GH3 is even heavier to the point that it just feels unnatural to me.

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