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After a second and a half, I thought Saint-Saens was a better guess. But it feels in line with either.
Well, as S-S Nos.1, 2 & 4 have already been discounted, and it isn't the Egyptian (because I'm into Egyptian hieroglyphics and pyramids and sphinxes and mummies wink ), someone can listen to No.3 and see/hear whether it fits........

I'm certain it isn't #3. I haven't heard it in about 30 years but the writing style of our sample is just too simplistic for Saint-Saens.


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Nobody mentioned Edvard Greig the Norwegian composer yet. He only wrote 1 piano concerto. After #1 he couldn't come up with anything better so it's the only concerto he wrote.

The section from the piece in question sounds like the 3rd movement of the Greig concerto. Probably not.


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Originally Posted by thepianoplayer416
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The section from the piece in question sounds like the 3rd movement of the Greig concerto. Probably not.
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No; definitely not.

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Originally Posted by mozarta2
....I did record it a long time ago....

Do you remember what you recorded it from?

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Thanks, I did record the extract from Youtube around 2 years ago. The full concerto was there (at this time at least). Checking the history through Youtube did not help either. My mistake was not to document it properly!

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Originally Posted by mozarta2
Thanks, I did record the extract from Youtube around 2 years ago. The full concerto was there (at this time at least). Checking the history through Youtube did not help either. My mistake was not to document it properly!

There are plenty of more or less known composers (though famous in their time) who wrote concertos or one mouvement pieces in a similar style. Loewe, Hiller, Ries, Weber, Czerny, .... Most of these have been recorded at least once (Hyperion, Naxos, .....).


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Thanks, I did record the extract from Youtube around 2 years ago. The full concerto was there (at this time at least). Checking the history through Youtube did not help either. My mistake was not to document it properly!

There are plenty of more or less known composers (though famous in their time) who wrote concertos or one mouvement pieces in a similar style. Loewe, Hiller, Ries, Weber, Czerny, .... Most of these have been recorded at least once (Hyperion, Naxos, .....).

Also Kalkbrenner and Moscheles ....


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Thanks Sidokar, indeed. I have checked these composer, I totally follow your point!

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Well, this thread has led me to discovering all sorts of beautiful neglected pieces for piano and orchestra, except for what OP is looking for, hehe. I even checked some of the music written by the ladies such as Clara Schumann and Amy Beach. The search continues.


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To me it sounds like it was earlier than Saint-Saens, but who knows. He wrote other works for piano and orchestra besides the concertos, so there is quite a bit of material. I am more inclined to believe it is Alkan. Or what about Lalo?


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Thanks Rubens and Quasiunafantasia!
Indeed there are so many gems in these lesser-known piano concertos.

I did try Lalo (he is great too) though I do not believe it is him. I will soon share a Youtube video (nor sponsored/nor monetized) on this thread with the finalized top 10 of lesser-known piano concertos (not including this mysterious composer as no name to be found!).

Youtube is a marvel in the sense that there are outstanding playlists gathering many little known piano concertos: I am thinking of "RARE - 250 Piano Concertos from the World p.1-2-3", here is the link for the first part: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL73764F255CE9ACF6

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Bortkiewicz?


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Do you perhaps know the original key signature?
That could possibly be a way to search


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It is not Bortkiewicz, though I had to look into it as well Lullablue, thanks for the suggestion.

Dogperson, it is a good idea though I do not have it. I feel with a detective with too few evidences!:)

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Originally Posted by mozarta2
Thanks Rubens and Quasiunafantasia!
Indeed there are so many gems in these lesser-known piano concertos.

I did try Lalo (he is great too) though I do not believe it is him. I will soon share a Youtube video (nor sponsored/nor monetized) on this thread with the finalized top 10 of lesser-known piano concertos (not including this mysterious composer as no name to be found!).

Youtube is a marvel in the sense that there are outstanding playlists gathering many little known piano concertos: I am thinking of "RARE - 250 Piano Concertos from the World p.1-2-3", here is the link for the first part: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL73764F255CE9ACF6

For your list you can consider several other candidates:

- Anton Rubinstein
- Dohnanyi (one of my preferate)
- Anton Arenski (the F minor is beautiful)
- Well known Antonin Dvorak
- Gabriel Pierné (very interesting french composer, but I dont like too much his p.concerto)
- Ignacy Feliks Dobrzyński (OK)
- Moszkowski (I love the B minor)
- Anton Reicha (one piano concerto. OK)
- Franz Berwald (interesting)


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Thanks a lot Sidokar for the names provided. I really love some of their piano concertos: Dohnanyi and Moszkowski particularly.
I do not believe it is from them either, I will stop to obsess about the missing one and enjoy the ones that are in reach:).

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this smells of Ries or Moscheles


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Or it is a recording that was placed by the mighty God of music in order to "trick" us into exploring neglected gems of the repertoire.


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Thanks Dolce Sfogato, I did check those composers as well without luck. They also have great piano concertos too.

Lol Rubens!

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Identifying rare pieces can be fun but I didn't find the brief excerpt anything special.

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