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Here’s an interesting observation I thought might be of interest to those of us who use our ES920 to record WAV or MP3 files on a flash drive: I took a blank flash drive and loaded 5 WAV files on it which I directly recorded from my ES920, but the display in the car would not recognize any of the files. In fact the “source” button for a flash drive option was “grayed out” and would not even operate. It wasn’t until I discovered I had to create a folder on my computer and then place the files in that folder before it would recognize the flash drive and play.
I suspect this is for two reasons: 1. If the files are in a folder, the car stereo will play the first file and then automatically move to the next one. 2. This seems to be a safety issue that prevents the user from multi-tasking while diving. If not in a folder, the driver would be constantly using the navigation menu to select and play every single tune. Obviously this is not a safe thing to do while driving.
Evidently, today’s cars don’t install CD drives anymore. You must download your CD tunes, WAV and MP3 files to a flash drive and use the stereo’s USB port. Something I’m not too happy with - but that’s another issue.
Nonetheless, I thought this observation might save some of our ES920 players some headaches.
Good grief!
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Very useful ( and interesting) multi-purpose nugget of user info; thank you!
I believe your suspicions re: folder use are spot on whether the reasoning was intentional (by the collective auto / entertainment industry) or not. Whether a person is wanting to operate a sound studio while driving down the highway OR simply sitting at their DP in their living room, it is a good idea to have USB drives setup with at least one folder for sound files, and reserve Root or other folders for other file types.
Since i am an old-schooler and generally use my car like my phone - the latter to make & receive phone calls, the former to travel to places - i do not need or want to fool with the increasing array of trendy add-on gizmo features. I also generally refrain from phone use while driving. An exception when it comes to using the car is that on occasion i might listen to a CD. In this respect, i musta got lucky that the recent upgrade to a 2022’ auto came with an AM/FM/Satellite radio AND CD player! But don’t tell too many people, if the auto industry gets wind they allowed a still-useful old feature to slip through, there may well be a Recall in my future to fix (remove) that ….. for the purpose of safety/security, of course 😉
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About those wav files -------- if a usb stick contains the wav files in the root directory (and not contained within a folder within that root directory), then getting wav files to play in the car wav/mp3 player (usb style) requires the same procedure/knowledge to be applied in general, right? Not just for ES920 ----- but pretty much for anything.
But that information associated with a required structure ----- needed to get the files to play in the car system -- is nice to know.
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On another note - when I record WAV or MP3 files from my Kawai ES920, I first format the flash drive directly from the keyboard itself. This make the flash drive compatible with the keyboard. The ES920 formatted flash drive will not play in my vehicle until I've formatted a separate flash drive on my computer and then downloaded the files to it. Another quirk to consider.
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After formatting with the ES920 ------- f a regular desktop computer can access the files, then the barrier will be with the software system used in the car only.
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SouthPark - I concur with your assessment regarding the software system in the car. My computer has no problems playing these files regardless of how the flash drive was formatted. I have had to go through some hoops to solve this problem in the car but persistence seems to have paid off. Other people may not run into any problems playing files in their car stereo but I hope this discussion has been valuable. I have a 2018 Chevy Equinox. Good grief!
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Here’s an interesting observation I thought might be of interest to those of us who use our ES920 to record WAV or MP3 files on a flash drive: I took a blank flash drive and loaded 5 WAV files on it which I directly recorded from my ES920, but the display in the car would not recognize any of the files. In fact the “source” button for a flash drive option was “grayed out” and would not even operate. It wasn’t until I discovered I had to create a folder on my computer and then place the files in that folder before it would recognize the flash drive and play.
I suspect this is for two reasons: 1. If the files are in a folder, the car stereo will play the first file and then automatically move to the next one. 2. This seems to be a safety issue that prevents the user from multi-tasking while diving. If not in a folder, the driver would be constantly using the navigation menu to select and play every single tune. Obviously this is not a safe thing to do while driving.
Evidently, today’s cars don’t install CD drives anymore. You must download your CD tunes, WAV and MP3 files to a flash drive and use the stereo’s USB port. Something I’m not too happy with - but that’s another issue.
Nonetheless, I thought this observation might save some of our ES920 players some headaches.
Good grief! Couple of thoughts: 1) What format is the flash drive using? FAT32, NTFS etc? 2) if you put the files in the drive not in folders, does it recognise them? 3) Have you researched what file format the cars system can read? I would start with 3 and Google it.
Instruments......Kawai MP7SE.............................................(Past - Kawai MP7, Yamaha PSR7000) Software..........Sibelius 7; Neuratron Photoscore Pro 8 Stand...............K&M 18953 Table-style Stage Piano Stand Piano stool.......K&M 14093 Piano stool
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Here’s an interesting observation I thought might be of interest to those of us who use our ES920 to record WAV or MP3 files on a flash drive: I took a blank flash drive and loaded 5 WAV files on it which I directly recorded from my ES920, but the display in the car would not recognize any of the files. In fact the “source” button for a flash drive option was “grayed out” and would not even operate. It wasn’t until I discovered I had to create a folder on my computer and then place the files in that folder before it would recognize the flash drive and play.
I suspect this is for two reasons: 1. If the files are in a folder, the car stereo will play the first file and then automatically move to the next one. 2. This seems to be a safety issue that prevents the user from multi-tasking while diving. If not in a folder, the driver would be constantly using the navigation menu to select and play every single tune. Obviously this is not a safe thing to do while driving.
Evidently, today’s cars don’t install CD drives anymore. You must download your CD tunes, WAV and MP3 files to a flash drive and use the stereo’s USB port. Something I’m not too happy with - but that’s another issue.
Nonetheless, I thought this observation might save some of our ES920 players some headaches.
Good grief! Couple of thoughts: 1) What format is the flash drive using? FAT32, NTFS etc? 2) if you put the files in the drive not in folders, does it recognise them? 3) Have you researched what file format the cars system can read? I would start with 3 and Google it. 1B- what format does the Kawai DP perform when an owner uses it to format a USB drive that then works in the DP but not in the car?
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Drewr - The manual does not state what format my ES920 performs. I've had success by the process of elimination, but it's like pulling teeth. The problem is with the car not my computer or the DP. The car does read MP3 and WAV files but it just doesn't like it if I have loaded my WAV files on a flash drive that has been formatted directly from the DP. If I load the files on a flash that I've formatted on my computer I don't have a problem.
When formatting on my computer I use the default FAT32. Above, Doug M mentions a NTFS but I don't know exactly what this is. My advise to others is to try various solutions until you find one that works. Again, all this hassle comes from the car stereo system and not my computer or DP. My car is a 2018 Equinox, maybe later cars have improved as far as flash drive file compatibility issues.
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It’s definitely the car’s system. I have similar issues when trying to play directly from some sort of media drive. These systems are rarely built for complex file reading and will generally require either a particular format. Glad you found the solution.
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Also, while the vast majority of cars don’t have CDs anymore, you may not have to depend solely on downloading CD music to flash drive. Do you have a smart phone? If so, you can generally use something like Apple Music/Spotify to download pretty much everything you love through their streaming services and play it via Bluetooth, which I’m sure a 2018 Equinox has. There are also media players/streaming players you might like to invest in, if you’re not a smartphone person.
Apple Music, Spotify, & Tidal will give you your favorite music in higher quality & fidelity than a CD ever could, and you can also plug directly into the car, avoiding Bluetooth, to enjoy it at it’s fullest. I’m fairly certain that, with almost no exceptions, everything you own on CD can be found on streaming services.
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It's possible that the car's system (as Bill mentioned and found) - that the car audio player system was programmed to look for a directory (or directories) - and must find at least one directory hanging off the root directory. And the system probably doesn't count/consider the root directory as being a directory.
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SouthPark - Yeah, I hear ya. You need to put the files in a folder and on a flash drive.
Hey SouthPark - "Respect my authorita!"
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When formatting on my computer I use the default FAT32. Above, Doug M mentions a NTFS but I don't know exactly what this is. My advise to others is to try various solutions until you find one that works. Again, all this hassle comes from the car stereo system and not my computer or DP. My car is a 2018 Equinox, maybe later cars have improved as far as flash drive file compatibility issues. NTFS (New Technology File System) is a later hard-drive format which allows for storage of larger files. It superseded File Allocation Table (FAT) as the preferred filesystem on Windows and is supported in Linux and BSD as well. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFSSometimes, certain technologies will utilise a specific hard-drive format. Tbh, if you store video files on your flash drive, formatted it to NTFS is a good idea anyway.
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