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Originally posted by Oxfords Gal:
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Ultimately I'm the one who decides which is valuable to me and which is fluff but it does get to be a pain when you have to sift through your original post to get 1 or 2 good answers or answers that even pertain to the original question.



Good point OG.... I sometimes wonder how many people do not post a reply after seeing/reading the thread. Seems two or three answers to the OP, then the arguments start, and then fewer and fewer responses to the OP until the thread dies .....


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I would have to agree with Ivory. Like so many others, I am a mature adult that took lessons as a kid and returned to piano in later life. Neither the PC or ABF quite fits the bill for me.

It seems the PC has become dominated by piano students, advanced players and pros, who are busily comparing notes on playing the likes of Scarbo, and passing judgement on current concert pianists.

The ABF has a Chopin Etudes thread! Now there is some beginner stuff! Alternatively, I don't want to wade through threads on Piano Magic,Alfred Books, or "I am having trouble playing hands together", "Am I too old to start?" etc....

I think that there are a great many of us who are not beginners, but don't really consider ourselves "pianists"...in the professional sense (accompaning, playing in malls,in a band, etc.), but more like piano hobbiests.

When day is done we just want to pour ourselves a glass of wine, and sit down to play something nice or work on our new piece.

Maybe a "Retread Forum"

No aspirations of the concert stage
No upcoming auditions
No need for beginner instruction either.

Just my 2 cents.


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Originally posted by Stanza:

When day is done we just want to pour ourselves a glass of wine, and sit down to play something nice or work on our new piece.

Maybe a "Retread Forum"

No aspirations of the concert stage
No upcoming auditions
No need for beginner instruction either.

Just my 2 cents.
Hi Stanza. I like your 2 cents worth.

Would you consider adding one more line item to your ideal forum description? Perhaps it would also read...

No negative comments, or condescending opinions.
Only positive Posts offering encouragement and nurturing advice.


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If we had a true "beginners only" forum most of us would not be able to post here. I think it should be called the "amateur" forum. I also think that for the most part the forum is very well moderated. Moderators of course cannot stop "condescending opinions" but that's the price we pay for being on a public forum. There are a lot of personalities out there and we may not like them all. I think that if someone really bothers us we should just try and avoid or ignore them. All the great people here imo make up for the few pain-in-the-butts.

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Surely the very nature of 'beginner' means in-need-of-help? That is especially true when it comes down to piano playing. I'm sure beginners have plenty to share (I was an adult beginner myself once), but a forum restricted solely to beginners sounds a bit Lord of the Flies to me. Besides moving over to other forums later would be so intimidating. Best get the shock and awe over with asap.

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Surely the very nature of 'beginner' means in-need-of-help? That is especially true when it comes down to piano playing. I'm sure beginners have plenty to share (I was an adult beginner myself once), but a forum restricted solely to beginners sounds a bit Lord of the Flies to me. Besides moving over to other forums later would be so intimidating. Best get the shock and awe over with asap.
Oh I don't know, I'm a beginner and I'm not sure I would describe the nature of my state as "in-need-of-help".

As for the OP, there are mostly nice folks here, but also some not so nice folks who sometimes have less than friendly exchanges. I'd prefer to see less of that.

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Oh I don't know, I'm a beginner and I'm not sure I would describe the nature of my state as "in-need-of-help".
Surely even more needy in the case of those who can't see it!

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I agree with Payton on this. There are some beginning piano students that have one or two bad experiences with a criticism. I like to approach it from an evaluation point of view (i.e the sandwich effect). I offer what I like, what you can do a little better, then add on what I like even more. The idea is to encourage the novice musician to stay on the journey (and I know it can be very difficult at times) and to endure.

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