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Posted By: Ubu Bosendorfer - 11/17/21 01:23 PM
What kind of digital products makes bosendorfer?

I just happened to read the description of this sub forum:

A piano forum for discussing Digital Pianos, Electronic Pianos, Keyboards, Synths, Work Stations and MIDI controllers. Digital Piano Reviews. Digital Piano Comparisons. Korg, Casio, Yamaha, Nord, Roland, Alesis, Kawai, Kurzweil, Bosendorfer


Bosendorfer?
Posted By: Abdol Re: Bosendorfer - 11/17/21 01:36 PM
Originally Posted by Ubu
What kind of digital products makes bosendorfer?

I just happened to read the description of this sub forum:

A piano forum for discussing Digital Pianos, Electronic Pianos, Keyboards, Synths, Work Stations and MIDI controllers. Digital Piano Reviews. Digital Piano Comparisons. Korg, Casio, Yamaha, Nord, Roland, Alesis, Kawai, Kurzweil, Bosendorfer


Bosendorfer?

Pffff... Didn't you know that Bosendorfer makes digital instruments? I'm sure everyone in this forum knows it except you!
Posted By: QuasiUnaFantasia Re: Bosendorfer - 11/17/21 02:01 PM
Bösendorfer make silent pianos, and Disklavier's (probably utilising Yamaha technology).

EDIT: You can get Bösendorfer grands with the Yamaha CFX sound. How gut wrenching for the Bösendorfer people ...
Posted By: Ubu Re: Bosendorfer - 11/17/21 03:03 PM
Originally Posted by QuasiUnaFantasia
Bösendorfer make silent pianos, and Disklavier's (probably utilising Yamaha technology).

EDIT: You can get Bösendorfer grands with the Yamaha CFX sound. How gut wrenching for the Bösendorfer people ...

If that's the reason, i find it a little bit on the edge. Steinway also makes similar things. And I'm pretty sure many top European piano makers also offer silent systems on their pianos.

On the other hand, Bechstein actually makes digital pianos, so it would make sense to put it on the list.
Posted By: EssBrace Re: Bosendorfer - 11/17/21 03:08 PM
Originally Posted by Ubu
On the other hand, Bechstein actually makes digital pianos, so it would make sense to put it on the list.

Don't you mean Bluthner?
Posted By: QuasiUnaFantasia Re: Bosendorfer - 11/17/21 03:15 PM
They also created the CEUS system (of which I know virtually nothing).
Posted By: Ubu Re: Bosendorfer - 11/17/21 03:17 PM
Originally Posted by EssBrace
Originally Posted by Ubu
On the other hand, Bechstein actually makes digital pianos, so it would make sense to put it on the list.

Don't you mean Bluthner?

Yes, my mistake, thankyou!
Posted By: HZPiano Re: Bosendorfer - 11/17/21 03:59 PM
Hello,

Originally Posted by Ubu
Yes, my mistake, thankyou!

Bechstein does have a virtual piano library, so could be rightfully on the list and it wouldn't be much of a mistake for you 😉.

Cheers and happy playing,

HZ
Posted By: SeaDrive Re: Bosendorfer - 11/20/21 02:00 AM
Originally Posted by HZPiano
Bechstein does have a virtual piano library, so could be rightfully on the list and it wouldn't be much of a mistake for you 😉.

Yes, I run the C. Bechstein DG library in Pianoteq 7, switching between the Player and Venue presets. It's my favorite piano! smile
Posted By: VladK Re: Bosendorfer - 11/21/21 02:03 AM
Originally Posted by SeaDrive
Originally Posted by HZPiano
Bechstein does have a virtual piano library, so could be rightfully on the list and it wouldn't be much of a mistake for you 😉.

Yes, I run the C. Bechstein DG library in Pianoteq 7, switching between the Player and Venue presets. It's my favorite piano! smile

I guess he meant the Kontakt library made by C.Bechstein. Very good indeed.
Posted By: HZPiano Re: Bosendorfer - 11/21/21 07:00 AM
Hello,

Originally Posted by VladK
I guess he meant the Kontakt library made by C.Bechstein. Very good indeed.

Actually, there is an instrument pack (a model) within Pianoteq that also is titled "Bechstein DG". Highly confuses me too: did they model it after the digital library instead of after an acoustic Bechstein? In any case the title is there.

Cheers and happy unraveling,

HZ
Posted By: MarkOfJohnson Re: Bosendorfer - 11/21/21 04:53 PM
I believe that their process is to sample, and use the sample as a reference for creating the model. For the Bechstein they used the Bechstein Digital Grand rather than making their own sample. I have both, they differ, I prefer the sample.
Posted By: QuasiUnaFantasia Re: Bosendorfer - 11/21/21 04:54 PM
Originally Posted by HZPiano
Actually, there is an instrument pack (a model) within Pianoteq that also is titled "Bechstein DG". Highly confuses me too: did they model it after the digital library instead of after an acoustic Bechstein?

Yes, precisely!

EDIT: After a pause of 9 hours in the thread, I was beaten to this comment by 21 seconds! The mind boggles. 😂
Posted By: SeaDrive Re: Bosendorfer - 11/21/21 06:55 PM
Originally Posted by HZPiano
Actually, there is an instrument pack (a model) within Pianoteq that also is titled "Bechstein DG". Highly confuses me too: did they model it after the digital library instead of after an acoustic Bechstein? In any case the title is there.

From the Modartt web site:

Quote
This physical model of C. Bechstein Digital Grand is originally derived from a C. Bechstein D 282 concert grand piano, captured by the acclaimed Teldex Recording studio in Berlin. Authorized by Bechstein, the Pianoteq model reproduces the outstandingly brilliant and powerful sound of the C. Bechstein D 282...

So... it's hard to say if they're claiming that they recorded a D 282 specifically for this Pianoteq model. I don't really understand the interplay between the recording and the modeling anyway... confused

Not that it matters much, as long as you like it, which I do. smile
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