I do the same thing. I'm fluent in Spanish, but when I use Spanish words while speaking English, I certainly don't give them the full accent treatment! That would sound weird and probably a bit pretentious. I get the general sound and stress correct but don't do things like roll the r or overdo anything.

The funny thing is, the opposite is also true. When speaking Spanish, especially when I'm back in Spain, English words that are a normal part of Spanish speaking get a bit of a Spanish edge to them, though I'm sure they still sound authentically American to my Spanish friends. It's almost a little awkward not to. There's this big open vowel sound to Spanish and it would be harder to flatten everything back up again just for one word.

Händel is of course, British, as any Brit would tell you . After all, we sing Messiah every year louder than anyone else (because everyone can sing Hallelujah - and don't forget to stand for it......George II decreed it so ). Not to mention the fact that he wrote stuff specially for George II - in English (Coronation anthems - Zadok etc).

As for Austro-German names, we're all so used to saying Munich when we mean München, and Vienna when we really mean Wien......how would one pronounce Munich the German way anyway?

He even dropped the umlaut!


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Wien rather than Wein, of course. Wein means wine.

In Georgia it's Vy-enna, just as Cairo is Karo.

Speaking of Vienna, there is the well-known piano manufacturer there whose name I usually hear pronounced Boozendorfer. I think there is an earlier thread on this topic. I have assumed that the "o" should be what is rendered in IPA as a lower case o with a diagonal slash through it, which my high school German teacher referred to as a long umlaut. That is the pronunciation of that combination of letters in the ordinary German word "boese" (sorry, don't know how to make an umlaut on this thing) which means evil.

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I must be thinking of Wein, Weib und Gesang in Wien.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FQFDdElsto

Ha, I will actually be playing this later today for ballet. I will think of our thread. Oom pah pah, oom pah pah!

A German record company put it back on an album that I have. Are they allowed to do that? Henle does the umlaut on their covers, how urtext is that?

There was a Paradisi who anglized to "Paradies." I'm surprised Muzio Clementi didn't become "Nigel Clements," or something.

PW's favorite (nay, only) composer, Freddy (anglicized for everyone's benefit ) is variously known as Frédéric François or Fryderyk Franciszek.

Of course, living in France, he couldn't have expected George to call him by his Polish name. But then we all know he was a Polish patriot, so should we still Frenchify his name?

What I can say is that in Poland, if you call him Frédéric François, you would be laughed at.....
https://goo.gl/images/Ye85ad

I had no problems with Finnish and Estonian names: Aare Reinmaa (my friend), Paasikivi, Koivistonen and so on. Part of the Polish names - such as Shimanovsky or Shostakovich - did not cause any difficulties ; until I met the name of Polish pop singer Basia Trzetrzelewska . Please, let someone show how to correctly pronounce her surname! I'm listening to Google - speller, and don't get it ...

Being Polish (which I know will seem like a lie after I just said I was born in Frankfurt, which I'm sure already looked like a lie) .....for me the name is absolutely no problem.

It probably doesn't seem it, but Polish pronunciation is completely logical. Unlike other languages, including not just English but also (for example) Italian.

The New York Jets used to have a back-up quarterback named Mike Taliaferro. I knew that, because I would see his name in newspaper articles about the team. But I never heard his name when I would watch the games on TV. However, I did hear that they sometimes had a guy at quarterback named "Tolliver."

That was how Taliaferro pronounced his name.

And in general, Italians drop vowels at will. "Prosciutto" is often just "prosciutt." In one of the Marx Brothers movies, Chico, doing his best to mimic an Italian accent in English, said "piksh" for "picture."

Oh: Tche'-tche-LEFF"-skah
(with the "tch's" as in Tchaikovsky)

Unless the L has a diagonal slash through it (which I think it doesn't); then it would be:
Tche'-tche-WEFF"-skah

Unless she doesn't say it in the authentic way, in which case it could be anything.

(It it were an American football player, I'd guess he'd say it "tre-LOO-ska.")

Hey, she got it right!

Very good.

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